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For the love of god, PLEASE make bruisers playable before you think about nerfing GP.

hi im alphonse·12/27/2017, 7:11:32 AM·28 votes·1,885 views

So if you dont know, gp has just hit #1 winrate for top lane on opgg http://na.op.gg/champion/gangplank/statistics/top

The moment i saw this i got quite a bit anxious given riot's history of balancing (or more accurately failure to balance) top lane. I am seriously worried that riot will pull the old trick of nerfing gp directly, buffing bruisers, his natural counter as they are in a horrible state, and then leaving him to rot for 2 seasons at least before they remember he exists. It's happened to Sej, it's happened to Darius, and a bunch of other champs that im sure im missing.

The point is, if any rioter reads this. Please, please PLEASE, buff bruisers back up to some semblance of viability before you consider nerfing gp directly. Historically bruisers have been gp's hardest matchups as they have the damage and mobility to pressure gp off of his farm, but now they basically can't be picked or else ornn/shen/teemo/jayce/gnar will keep them at 0 cs for the whole game (Exaggeration ik but you get the idea). Making bruisers viable may be all gp needs to be brought back into line, so please start with that before you force gp back into the "hug tower all game and pray to god you can hit 13 before the game s decided" playstyle. That wasnt fun for either the gp or the lane opponent.

47 Comments

Blåbæret12/27/2017, 12:43:32 PM28 votes

Nah, GP is an oppressive trash champion. He has needed nerfs for months. At 20 minutes his barrels stop having counterplay and he can do whatever he wants. That + he's abusing lethality.

Śhunpo12/27/2017, 11:32:55 AM13 votes

Don't buff bruisers, nerf tanks, nerf the Sorcery tree and give bruisers an actual keystone to work with in the precision tree.

Tornao12/27/2017, 2:20:45 PM11 votes

Imo top lane is a big fcking mess. Gp is only good, cause atm tanks like ornn are op, so he can farm klepto on him so much, and grasp is good against bruisers which are atm bad. Split pushers like trynd are very annoying to play against, cause without good team u can't win against him, even if he goes 0-8 he will still one shot you, and have bigger influence than other 10-0 toplaner

  • twitch + lulu boosting technique is imposible to win at lower ranks, cause nobody knows how to play against it, and even 1 kill can snowball game
Sasogwa12/27/2017, 3:20:21 PM9 votes

Are bruisers really his counter? Everytime I faced a very good GP as a bruiser I felt like he was the one to counter me. If he plays smart enough he's basically a ranged champion with disgusting slows (barrels, which funnily enough can get similar values to Nasus slow for some reason), a cleanse, and at some point just gets so much gold advantage from klepto (if I cs he gains gold off me, if I dont cs he has gold on the cs that I dont have. Great.) that he can almost stat check me in melee and destroy me. Wow such fun great.

In any case, except mayyybe Irelia I guess, a highly mechanical GP shits on bruisers and they can't do anything to beat him without jungler's help.

OFC here I'm talking about very good GP's, and it is to be noticed the difference between them and average GP's is insanely huge.. but we can't just balanced around average players and let the best automatically win because they play a skilled champ that's kinda sad

AmazoX12/27/2017, 4:18:28 PM6 votes

Damn right bruisers deserve love!

AmazoX12/27/2017, 4:19:20 PM4 votes

Why make GP unplayable instead of buffing the weak champions so GP & bruisers stand a chance against each other while also making bruisers viable again.

Eedat12/27/2017, 7:15:08 PM3 votes

If anything something needs to be done about his synergy with Klepto, not the champ himself. He's supposed to be weak early but he straight up isn't with all the extras he's gets from technically being a melee

Sun Wu Ryuumoku12/27/2017, 5:20:43 PM2 votes

reverty his last buff (wasnt deserved to begin)

Kinnikuko12/27/2017, 4:10:11 PM2 votes

Gp plays like a add early game with his q

Hópe12/27/2017, 7:03:15 PM2 votes

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So if you dont know, gp has just hit #1 winrate for top lane on opgg http://na.op.gg/champion/gangplank/statistics/top

The moment i saw this i got quite a bit anxious given riot's history of balancing (or more accurately failure to balance) top lane. I am seriously worried that riot will pull the old trick of nerfing gp directly, buffing bruisers, his natural counter as they are in a horrible state, and then leaving him to rot for 2 seasons at least before they remember he exists. It's happened to Sej, it's happened to Darius, and a bunch of other champs that im sure im missing.

The point is, if any rioter reads this. Please, please PLEASE, buff bruisers back up to some semblance of viability before you consider nerfing gp directly. Historically bruisers have been gp's hardest matchups as they have the damage and mobility to pressure gp off of his farm, but now they basically can't be picked or else ornn/shen/teemo/jayce/gnar will keep them at 0 cs for the whole game (Exaggeration ik but you get the idea). Making bruisers viable may be all gp needs to be brought back into line, so please start with that before you force gp back into the "hug tower all game and pray to god you can hit 13 before the game s decided" playstyle. That wasnt fun for either the gp or the lane opponent.

Im sorry but getting your spike item ( Triforce ) at 11-12 minutes is 100% unhealthy. GP is the more bullsh*t version of Pantheon in that he just Qs to win lane

AirKingNeo12/27/2017, 5:54:31 PM1 votes

Bruisers don't need buffs. Everything else needs nerfs. The moment bruisers get buffed, someone abuses it. Bruiser issues stem from more than just champions. Baron recall negates splitpushing.

PaffWasTaken12/28/2017, 3:05:24 AM1 votes

Well I heard that grasp of undying will get buffed into a fervor-like kind of state in order to give something to use to the bruisers and, given the balance-team's current state of mind, I wouldn't think they'll do anything big about GP, for now

DunkinNoobs12/28/2017, 9:35:50 AM1 votes

His winrate is only that high in Korea; his winrate is a far more reasonable 51% worldwide which is nowhere near nerf-worthy.

ChizPizaZane12/28/2017, 10:07:50 AM1 votes

UGHHHHHHH, I spent so much time trying to get from M5 to M6 on Illaoi because of how fkn retarded tanks are ATM. I ban Cho, I get Ornn. I ban vayne, I GET FKN QUINN ( LIKE SRSLY FUCK THAT CHAMP). It's as if almost every one fkn counters Illaoi, and don't give me that "Well maybe you're not good at Illaoi and just farm undertower" B O I I FKN C A N' T WITH ALL THE TANKS BRINGING THEIR JUNGLER TOP AND JUST DESTROYING ME WHILE THEY DIVE ME BECAUSE OF HOW BROKEN TANKS ARE AND HOW WEAK TURRETS ARE.

War The Horseman12/28/2017, 9:32:59 PM1 votes

Dunno but GP parley and Klepto must not work together if you don't want direct nerfs to him.

I am sick of that fcker clicking on me every 4 sec and getting 20 gold for it.

I legit outfarmed a GP (and killed him once) by 20 cs but he got trinity + boots (tier 1) before I had my gunblade....

Klepto and parley interaction is BS.