OK so if Darius can get Missing HP % Healing...

ShadeCrenshaw·Sep 7, 2015·9 votes·2,611 views

Can Renektons Q be changed to Missing HP % as well? as right now his Q is nowhere near as spammable and is complete crap in actual teamfights. Even the enhanced version.

Can Nasus's passive be chaged to 10% 20 % 30% missing HP healed instead of generic life steal? I mean, considering that this is a single target thing its even more underwhelming.

or you know, can we please just take away that stupid healing and NOT give a fucking TANK the means to heal 1000+ HP every 3 seconds in a team fight AND give said tank a 1200 true damage execute AND 200+ AD?

Seriously what the hell is wrong with you, what part of any of that seems balanced?

17 Comments

InphernalSep 7, 20155 votes

If Nasus's passive was changed to 10/20/30% missing HP, then nasus could build full tank and heal around 1.3k HP every auto attack (or every 4 seconds if it only applied to Nasus Q)

Unlike Darius, Renekton can heal from monsters+minions with his Q which gives him very good sustain in lane and in the jungle. Darius Q cooldown only overtakes Renekton Q cooldown once it has been ranked up 3 times. Renekton Q has a static 75% AD ratio, whereas Darius needs to max Q to rank 5 to hit a 70% AD ratio.

If you're letting the darius Q hit 3 of your teammates every 3 seconds (You're assuming that he has 40% CDR as well i guess) then something is very wrong. To heal 1000+ HP with his Q, darius would need to have 3000 missing health. Also, 1200 true damage?.

This champion has no escapes, and even if he could possibly build enough items to gain those stats (without sacrificing any of the other ones) ^ you should still probably be more worried about the vayne (replace with any other AD/AP carry) at this point in the game.

Hope i could clear some things up for you!

ShadeCrenshawSep 7, 20152 votes

Cuz hitting a Q on your lane opponent is so god damned diddly hard isn't it? ESPECIALLY after they gave him a 90% slow on both his E and W

And in team fights its not like there's more than likely a frontline all bunched together that you can easly hit if the backline is giving you trouble. Also he doesn't need to hit 3 team-mates anymore incase you didn't know. Its 15% per champ. So its only 2.

Also incase you didn't notice Darius pretty much always builds Black cleaver (20% CDR) and Spirit visage for the stupid Q passive (10%CDR) So yes a darius will more than likely have around 35% - 40% CDR.

And yes 1000+hp is an extreme situation but even then its still bullshit that a tank has this sort of healing. I mean hell even Nasus, king of lifesteal passives can't do that bullshit.

Oh and I'm sorry, only 1092 true damage at max rank with a whopping 90 bonus AD from black cleaver and titanic hydra. WHAT A HUGE FUCKING DIFFERENCE

See, you can kill an APC or an ADC fairly easily, since they are squishy as all hell.

Darius you need your whole team and some ignites to kill.

KONO RUBICK DASep 7, 20151 votes

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Cuz hitting a Q on your lane opponent is so god damned diddly hard isn't it? ESPECIALLY after they gave him a 90% slow on both his E and W

And in team fights its not like there's more than likely a frontline all bunched together that you can easly hit if the backline is giving you trouble. Also he doesn't need to hit 3 team-mates anymore incase you didn't know. Its 15% per champ. So its only 2.

Also incase you didn't notice Darius pretty much always builds Black cleaver (20% CDR) and Spirit visage for the stupid Q passive (10%CDR) So yes a darius will more than likely have around 35% - 40% CDR.

And yes 1000+hp is an extreme situation but even then its still bullshit that a tank has this sort of healing. I mean hell even Nasus, king of lifesteal passives can't do that bullshit.

Oh and I'm sorry, only 1092 true damage at max rank with a whopping 90 bonus AD from black cleaver and titanic hydra. WHAT A HUGE FUCKING DIFFERENCE

See, you can kill an APC or an ADC fairly easily, since they are squishy as all hell.

Darius you need your whole team and some ignites to kill.

Darius get the healing only if he touches you and your friend with the blade. Eeasier said than done with the 0.75 sec delay, melee champions can run into you during this time and ranged out of it.

1200 true damage? no just no he can't do that and 1000 hp healing at the same time.Also i agree that renekton Q and darius Q differance is bullshit since renekton has to build AD

BeatzBoyFTWSep 7, 20153 votes

As if both of them have a 0.75 second delay or a "Must Hit The Outer Tip for Heals" condition. Darius just really needs a higher cooldown on his Q doe.

ShadeCrenshawSep 7, 20151 votes

Cuz that is so hard to hit right?

Also before you cry about the 0.75 second delay, might I remind you that that ability has a range of 475?

Renektons Q has a range of 225

Nasus Q has a range of 150. or 200 with the new +50 range thing.

And poor ass Aatrox has to stay up your butthole for a while to get the most pitiful heal every 3'd auto.

Also their abilities don't apply a DoT.

Try again pleaaaase.

BeatzBoyFTWSep 7, 20152 votes

Renektons Q has a range of 225

E in
Stun with W
Q
E out

Meanwhile Darius:

Darius : Could you stop fucking moving??? Fiora Jax : Lolol, fk u :D infinite hops/dashes intensifies

Nasus Q has a range of 150. or 200 with the new +50 range thing.

You get fked either way when he either withers you down, or reaches 500 stacks to whup your butt. Still useful when it comes to withering fed XinZhao Jax etc & ADCs.

And poor ass Aatrox has to stay up your butthole for a while to get the most pitiful heal every 3'd auto.

Doesn't matter if heals or not, he still sucks ass.

Also their abilities don't apply a DoT.

Nasus Renekton : We don't, but do you have the Shuriman Sunfire? :D _Proceeds to build item 3068 _

DurzakaSep 7, 20153 votes

Renekton's Q is also instant, and you cant do anything to avoid it except stay out of range.

and he also doesnt use any mana.

His sustain in lane is already strong, you want to change it so his laning is actually oppressive again?

53436278DEL1Sep 7, 20152 votes

Aatrox

Big LincolnSep 7, 20152 votes

it only heals if he hits the blade

so don't let him hit the blade

ShadeCrenshawSep 7, 20151 votes

Vayne only really hurts if she gets the silver bolt procs off.

Don't let her get the silver bolt procs off.

Do you see how dumb that sounds?

Big LincolnSep 7, 20155 votes

they're not even remotely comparable, lol. vayne builds to get her stacks off faster. there's nothing that Darius can buy to speed up his Q and you can do more to prevent it than stunlock him or stay on the other side of the map

darius' Q blade is a minority of the AoE. if you can't get away from him then just take the inner circle damage. you deny him both a bleed stack and his heal, as well as making him lose half of his damage. you'd be surprised how much harder it gets for him to smash you when you don't let him sustain through duels or fights.

the sustain is necessary, otherwise he'd be laughably terrible in fights. whether or not it's too strong is up for debate, but it's a good premise

53436278DEL1Sep 7, 20151 votes

wanna know something funny aatrox passive doesn't even heal based on % health it stores flat amount

ShadeCrenshawSep 7, 20151 votes

Ah, right how could I forget about that poor sod.

And the flat amount he heals for is soooo pathetic. And when was the last time you've seen an aatrox go full tank?

53436278DEL1Sep 7, 20151 votes

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Ah, right how could I forget about that poor sod.

And the flat amount he heals for is soooo pathetic. And when was the last time you've seen an aatrox go full tank?

LMFAO never and when he does go full tank he gets blown to bits anyway