How to itemize in current meta?

ZXenon·12/15/2017, 9:21:57 AM·1 votes·411 views

Feeling extremely tilted recently btw, it feels like when I'm playing as adc armor completely destroy's me (especially bramble vest), I just have 0 lifesteal even with a bt. Last whisper is not going to come out until 4 or 5th item usually and when I play as ap champ ap damage is nonexistent because tank just build warmogs is able to outsustain any incoming damage, how is poke comp even op? It feels like tank meta the whole time. I am gold elo so my opinion can be biased but how do you itemize against tanks?

4 Comments

Grace Of Kaizen12/15/2017, 9:29:19 AM2 votes

If they stack Mr you get void, and pen. If they stack health you get AP and Liandrys.

You don't HAVE to get Last whisper that late. You buy what you need. Last whisper isn't that expensive if the enemy tanks get fed pick it up and let it sit not fully upgraded. Yeah it can suck and it definitely doesn't feel good.

You shouldn't wait to buy Last whisper as your 5th item just because it seems like you're supposed to if the person that's giving you hell is stacking armor. I once bought a last whisper after I got zeal and IE because an enemy Rammus had all the teams gold. We ended up winning because I could shred him a lot sooner in teamfights than he expected.

Warmogs gets a littled countered by Liandrys because it takes longer to be out of combat after getting hit from the burn (from what I remember). If they really stack health you can also get rylais to increase the burn damage on all any spell you land. Also if you have low cool-downs you can abuse constant Lich-Bane procs for dps.

Also poke comp usually works by pressuring past tanks and hitting the squishies and making them back so you can take towers.

Always remember to be hitting tab and checking enemy items before they're even done so you can get an idea of what you need to start building towards. That way you're not halfway done with a deathcap only to realize they have two MR items and you have no penetration.

TheFallenShaw12/15/2017, 9:39:13 AM2 votes

item 3153 + lord dom and black cleaver = gg any armor tank. as ADC you'll have 1 option next item 3812 or item 3508 or item 3072 . As I'm sure your gonna wanna start on your attack speed and crit items. I'd suggest deaths dance though.

Learn to build items needed. Idc if your jinx, you don't have to build crit to 100% every game. Sometimes other things are needed instead.

all the magic pen shit as ap

Sujiren12/15/2017, 10:36:19 AM1 votes

Most ap champs these days seem to get sorcs and liandries pretty early from what I have seen, and eventually void aswell.

Pieceofcandy12/15/2017, 2:39:34 PM1 votes

Don't get Bork against Armor stacking Tanks, start planning for whisper as soon as you see big armor items like Omen or Heart nearing completion.

Grab Maw, if you're getting mowed by Thornmail it deals magic damage back to you Maw's base MR will lower the reflect damage and still net you life steal once you need it in combat.

You can also get press the attack as it's a flat 12% damage increase at full stacks.

AP is either Void or Liandry's

Waiting till late to buy pen items or having a static build makes the diff, also if they've got the level advantage on you it'll feel like they're super tanks because of the difference in base stats/damage.