Dynamic Queue is Truly Unfair for Solo Queue

Sergeant Pepper··47 votes·2,181 views

Okay Riot, so why in Dynamic Queue is there no matchmaking between duo partners or groups being matched with similar groups of the same quantity? I was playing a game earlier by myself when I noticed none of the players on my team were trio-ing or even duo-ing together. Then, once we loaded into the game, I noticed that three of the players on their team were playing together. Now explain to me how five solo players are supposed to match up to the synergy of that quantity? I understand that Solo Queue and Duo Queue had its drawbacks, but this random luck of not getting matched with groups is truly unfair for players who just want to climb elo on their own. I know this game encourages teamwork, but you just cannot match teamwork to that of a group of three or four players who are all in a Skype call, it just not that easy. I myself don't even enjoy playing with large groups because I see it as freelo against teams who cannot communicate to the extent that we can. How do you plan on fixing this truly unfair aspect of the new dynamic queue?

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Draaaaaavéééééén9 votes

100% i'm bored of getting 3 man ganked from the enemies and they dont even get enough when i'm like 1-9 they wan't my team to say : lol draven or feed more like draven and feed , reported for feeding while i got 0 gankes (why the fuck did i type this shit)

PM Faker Nudes1 votes

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100% i'm bored of getting 3 man ganked from the enemies and they dont even get enough when i'm like 1-9 they wan't my team to say : lol draven or feed more like draven and feed , reported for feeding while i got 0 gankes (why the fuck did i type this shit)

Same

The Deckowner7 votes

Rito is fine to cost some fairness for letting people play with friends in ranked, which brings particularly nothing beneficial to the game.

The Yetii Rider3 votes

Alright, seriously. First of all, there's nothing stopping you from duoing with someone else if it's really giving as much of an advantage as you say it is. If you're not willing to compete within the bonds of the game, how can you say you're being competitive?

Secondly, Dynamic Queue isn't leaving. Riot has already made that very clear on Reddit. Stop crying and get used to it or leave.

LAKIGR7 votes

Except for the fact that not everyone has 4 other people that they can duo with.

DrCabes5 votes

There isn't anything stoping dynamics from finding others for a 5 man for ranked 5's either... but solo players pay the price anyway

OxyPoro5 votes

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Alright, seriously. First of all, there's nothing stopping you from duoing with someone else if it's really giving as much of an advantage as you say it is. If you're not willing to compete within the bonds of the game, how can you say you're being competitive?

Secondly, Dynamic Queue isn't leaving. Riot has already made that very clear on Reddit. Stop crying and get used to it or leave.

Man, why you DQ defenders gotta be so mini Kim Jong-un?

Don't tell us what to do, ya'll never hear us saying: "Give us solo Q or leave!" "This is our game so think like us or change the situation or shut the fuck up."

I mean, how the fuck would that sound? Stop acting like a fucking bunch of fascist nazi communist, and realise people died for us to have the right to express our selves and everytime you tell someone to get with the deal or shut up, get out or whatever the fuck, you're literally shitting on their graves, so think a little before you write maybe? You fascist nazi communist DQ defender pigs fucking disgust me.

And even then, I would never tell you to not express yourselves.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

That's not how that works. You don't have free speech on a forum, the company can delete your post at any time for any reason because it isn't a government. The internet isn't American and doesn't follow American law.

And the issue has been settled by Riot. I come on these boards to talk about actual gameplay like jungle mechanics, Sona itemization, how to deal with a fed Zed and other things. It's been six months of you guys filling up the front page with the same six threads and it does nothing but take away from legitimate relevant discussion about gameplay.

OxyPoro1 votes

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That's not how that works. You don't have free speech on a forum, the company can delete your post at any time for any reason because it isn't a government. The internet isn't American and doesn't follow American law.

And the issue has been settled by Riot. I come on these boards to talk about actual gameplay like jungle mechanics, Sona itemization, how to deal with a fed Zed and other things. It's been six months of you guys filling up the front page with the same six threads and it does nothing but take away from legitimate relevant discussion about gameplay.

Dafuq you talking about, if Riot doesn't want people discussing these matters on boards they are fully allowed ban the topic, but have they?

Thus your argument is 100% void.

As long as Riot does not explicitly dictate that it's not allowed we will continue to express our displeasure, don't like it?

WELL I DON'T GIVE A FUCK.

Blanchimont3 votes

You can't fix it. You cannot expect Solo Queue players to do well in Ranked Teams because it's a completely different dynamic. There's a reason why they were separate queues in the past. Ironically, Dynamic Queue is not dynamic because it still allows for stupid changes like this half a year in.

FioraWillCarry2 votes

Git gud and stop making stupid threads like this please. Thx.

BIue Monk10 votes

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Git gud and stop making stupid threads like this please. Thx.

Lol, he is B3, but what he said happens at any elo, and it's just factual...

OxyPoro9 votes

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Git gud and stop making stupid threads like this please. Thx.

Lul, git gud says the bronze warrior. ^o^

FioraWillCarry2 votes

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Lul, git gud says the bronze warrior. ^o^

Good point. I'd probably be Diamond if it wasn't for DQ. Thx for showing me the light.

OxyPoro6 votes

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Good point. I'd probably be Diamond if it wasn't for DQ. Thx for showing me the light.

Sure thing bud. ;D

Dehitay11 votes

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Git gud and stop making stupid threads like this please. Thx.

Or somebody could just remove the reason that threads like this exist in the first place. There's an obvious preference for solo queue as proven by the fact that Riot won't even try to put both queues up at once as everybody knows what a competitive market will decide.

Mojihito6667 votes

Git gud and stop making stupid comments like this please. Thx.

Dextix LT5 votes

There is getting good because it is your fault.

And then there is when the system is stacked against you.

TheLazySunbro5 votes

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Git gud and stop making stupid threads like this please. Thx.

You have no rights to say that when you're bronze

FioraWillCarry1 votes

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You have no rights to say that when you're bronze

I really don't like repeating myself, but lemme say it again, git gud and stop making stupid threads like this.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

Get out you boosted bronzenimal

GULAG 4 U2 votes

the 12 people who voted no are boosted animals

I7A6X2v21 votes

they already said countless times they are not bringing back Solo Queue. As a solo player i don't think dyna queue is unfair for solo players.

Dextix LT5 votes

And they said countless of times that soloq is coming back. ** RIOT LIES CONSTANTLY**

** And dynamic being unfair for solo players is a FACT**

Godhri1 votes

It's only a "cost" if you see it that way. I find the increased challenge nice. It is frustrating yes, but hardly unfair. Besides, queue times would be screwed over if they made it so strict that only groups of 2s can match against groups of 2s and so on.

I think Riot recognizes that solo q fostered a certain way of thinking that was unhealthy for this game's environment and the game itself. The thinking that "climbing elo on their own" suggests that individual skill is paramount and as long as you have this, you need not respect or care about your teammates. It is thanks to this kind of thinking that the current community is less than friendly with each other.

I think they made the right decision with dynamic queue. You can still "climb elo on your own" if you wish; you'll just be faced against those who recognize that this is a team game and it is less about "me" than it is about "team". If you are that good that you can climb elo on your own then it shouldn't be a problem if you face more difficult matches to begin with. You'll face similar difficulty once you climb high enough anyway.

Dextix LT5 votes

Definition of fair - treating people in a way that does not favor some over others.

In the dynamic q, the system CLEARLY favors premades.

You just like every other DQ defender thinks that teamwork is only when premades are involved. Wrong.

In soloq, your rank depended upon 2 main factors, your mechanic skill and teamwork skill. If you were a good player but couldn't communicate with the team you didn't rise, and vice versa. You HAD to care about your teammates to win.

They didnt make the right decision with dynamic because it is unfair for one side and premades are favored.

Godhri1 votes

I don't deny the unfairness, but I never stated that teamwork only exists in premades. I'm not sure where you got that from. I said solo Q fosters a certain kind of thinking that doesn't really encourage the team spirit.

Dextix LT2 votes

But it does. All of the team members objective is to win. And you can't win without them no matter how much you want. Thus you need to learn teamwork by neccesity. Thus, even if you dont like the idea of working as a team, you must do it to win and to rise in the ranks.

And solo skill is what should be encouraged the most. It is the most important part of any competative game. Even in team-based games individual skill is the most important factor.

Dynamicq is what actually fosters the thinking that doesnt encourage team spirit. Because if you are always with your friends, you will not improve your teamwork skills, as you know those guys, you will also be slower to improve your mechanical skills, as your friends will be less critical of you and you will always get the role/champion you want. And if 3+ premades are in the same team with soloes, dont expect them to communicate most of the time, as they have formed their own circle already, where soloes are not allowed.

Godhri1 votes

Well while you are correct, it's not necessarily true that your friends will be less critical of you or that you will always get the role you want. I'm just going to have to agree to disagree with you. I'm not saying Dynamic Queue is perfect, but I enjoy it as it is. I wouldn't care much if they reverted it back to Solo Q either way. I am only responding to understand both sides of this issue.

It's as the saying goes "You understand each other through arguments". Conflicts highlights the issues that needs to be addressed. Arguments help clarify the issue. Just going through the process of understanding your side and my side.

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