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As a Fiora main, the rework is garbage.

MalzaharAnyLane·8/6/2015, 11:14:15 PM·11 votes·3,002 views

Yeah, this Fiora rework is garbage. * /r/leagueoflegends

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1911238209/32089119/eog Just so you know, my score already indicates that the rework was not hard to relearn.

All her matchups are screwed up now, her lunge doesn't have enough gap closing power to stick to a target.
W doesn't block blinds. I actually managed to lose top lane while 3 kills ahead, without dying. I still lost my lane, with more CS, more kills.
She's even less able to survive in teamfights than before, she has enough time to press R or W and then die immediately. Positioning doesn't fix this.
Lunge's range was effectively halved because it can't be cast twice in succession.
The true damage passive only makes up for losing the free AD on W. It's still basically not having a passive. Your burst takes the exact same amount of time.

Yes, I can actually duel Katarina, and duel tanks... and that's about it? Otherwise now I'm a weak top laner and don't fit into any lane at all now.

This rework sucks. I think it's time to quit League, the balance and champion designer's brains fell out sometime around season 3. I really don't even need to say why, the frustration just continues to mount as they pour money into ruining champions no one had a problem with and fail to do this kind of rework to Lee Sin or Riven.

22 Comments

JAGMAG8/6/2015, 11:57:51 PM5 votes

oh boo whoo you cant insta delete someone for free with your r

Oerba No Naja8/6/2015, 11:49:34 PM4 votes

totally agree with you .# Cassiopeia there is so much champ that need REAL rework Taric Poppy Yorick Zilean Urgot but better rework a " fine" champ because we are brain dead . the positive point on that rework : fiora is no more a press r pentakill and better buff teemo . lmao

SegamanGenesis8/7/2015, 12:11:26 PM3 votes

Yeah Fiora's old ult was really strong... but seriously, we traded that one for this extremely underwhelming and pathetic ult. Its based around what is a pretty stupid and shitty passive and it serves little to no purpose in dueling 1v1 -- the heal only occurs after so you will lose to anyone who has good lifesteal/sustain -- honestly this rework is garbage, even higher elo players are now scratching their heads as to what to do with Fiora, she doesn't feel strong at all anymore. the "grand duelist" feels like a "grand failure" the ult needs to change - the passive could be done better too... I mean, half the time it doesn't even work.

Lugg8/7/2015, 4:54:08 AM2 votes

By garbage, do you mean "now requires skill to win with"?

lolipopevelynn8/7/2015, 12:07:21 AM2 votes

25% max HP true damage is all ima say.

Yordle Xayah8/7/2015, 4:11:23 AM1 votes

Dude Riven is very balanced very healthy very good fair non toxic champion at all

Vistha Kai8/7/2015, 10:03:44 AM1 votes

As a former faceroll assassin Fiora main, the rework is garbage.

FTFY

Shénzhì8/7/2015, 12:27:44 AM1 votes

Mobility refinement: Yea she could be improved a little to allow players less micro-managing mobility against her target. Making life easier somehow.

Health management: Additionally, I propose a passive to compensate for a failed engage attempt on her target.

Additional Passive Idea:

RECOMPOSE: (like a dancer?) Clever healing!

The moment Fiora enters battle her damage output, damage input, life-steal and time spent is calculated.

If Fiora deals enough damage and exits combat, she will not heal.

If Fiora fails to damage target, took hits and exits combat, she will heal (Recompose).

If Fiora used LifeSteal during the engagement, Recompose's heal is deducted.

Recompose heal values are not always the same but do have a cap.

Cannot exceed current HP value prior to entering combat!

This clever healing passive disables if Grand Challenge [R] was successful.

pxst8/9/2015, 1:38:33 PM1 votes

Although I am not a fiora main , but honestly fiora rework is a fail , how can fiora go in teamfight when her q is fkin short and only one gap close to get the adc or apc ? Even when u get in range to use ur ult adc or apc can easily kite u down because of only 1 gap closer (becoz it don't reset q do count as 1)and u are to squishy to survive . For example fiora get ut on ahri and how the fk suppose fiora to even hit her ult when ahri can simply denied all with her q not even using her out mobility same goes on to other champ like vayne can r to invisible and fiora just get burst down not even touch the backline unless the support or tank let her do so , ok she has her w to block cc , seriously riot , support like nautilus have 4 kinds of cc and not even count others , ok someone might said fiora also have her team to initiate . Wtf is fiora need a team full of cc so file a can just walk in and deal damage to the backline seriously , wtf are u guys thinking , should we build fiora into tank so she can walk in chase ? GRAND DUELIST huh can't handle teamfight and how can fiora spilt push with her e only for 2 autos ? AND U JUST BUFF THE MOST Annoying champ satan teemo into a even more fking shit bitch GJ RIOT GJ , old file a maybe op need a rework but have u even try thinking how to use fiora after the rework , now it definitely take skill but skill can not take u to dive a long way to take down apc or adc man , item build is mainly ad and cdr also need some tank item , it just not fiora anymore but a tank a bit true damage Janna like ult aoe heal champ

Valand8/10/2015, 6:54:57 PM1 votes

I would be really happy if they undid the rework on her. I am not going to complain about the effectiveness of her, thats not the issue. Any champion can be effective in the right situation, if played correctly.

My problem with the rework is she is not the same champion she was. The play style has shifted way to much, its not a matter of adapting. I liked playing her for certain reasons and now those reasons are all gone. She has turned into a hybrid support of some kind and thats not my style. I learned this champion, got good with her and enjoyed playing her.

If your going to make such drastic changes, make a new champion. The people who like a champion for what they are get screwed when you change something this much. Her main three skills are "the same" but they work so differently then before it doesnt feel like the champion I liked. Her ultimate was removed and no matter how good this one could be it isnt the same. It doesnt give you the same feeling the old one did when you use it. Its too different, it doesnt have the same heft of feeling to it.

Nor does it make sense for a duelists ultimate ability to be a team based skill...but thats another issue. Bring her back to the way she was, make a new champion for a new play style. Dont create a new champion out of an old champion that turns it into a different role.