Heimer / Veigar bot lane

RisingTsunami·May 14, 2016·2 votes·698 views

I just went up against this as MF with Janna as my support and we got absolutely demolished. :( Heimer turrets and Veigars event horizon zoned me out from any chance at farming cs to the point I was hugging turret just to not die. So how do you counter that ? I've never had a more difficult time as adc than that match. ><

7 Comments

CaítlynMay 14, 20162 votes

You dont. They counter you.

People are so dead-set on "you must have an adc and a support bot" and dont try new things when they actually destroy standard setups.

RisingTsunamiMay 14, 20161 votes

I was hoping to get some real feedback besides ff@20. Surely there's gotta be a counter.

BeldairMay 14, 20161 votes

Positioning and timing.

SpoofghoulMay 14, 20162 votes

this!

i used to do heimer alistar botlane with my bro doublle zzrot double banner you cant outpush that between heimers regen aura and alis healspam its imposible to effectively waveclear the constant stream of minions.

its also quite imposible to gank

and its pretty damn impossible to engage on

and for free kills everytime flash is up ali just Q > flash > headbut into heimer turrets then heimer drops stun grenade and if neccesary rocket ults them.

pretty much a free kill every 3 minutes

because ofc you grab every little bit of summoner cdr

double tld to provide free dmg

BeldairMay 14, 20162 votes

Yea, ppl are extremely picky on who is support.

You try to do off meta picks like Mordekaiser and Renekton and you get raged at and get the dodge resulting in another 5 minute que. (i know from experience as a Support)

Very Hard EngageMay 14, 20161 votes

you wait until they push (by default) and then you walk up behind them and kill them with auto attacks. ez pz.

AmelieMay 14, 20161 votes

MF can kill Heimer turrets. Veigar's event horizon has a decently long cooldown and is easy to dodge. They BOTH rely on spells to hit you, so after they use their main spells, they are actually very weak. This is when you should be harassing them, not running away. You should be able to harass them with MF's Q at least. And if you build early lifesteal, they can't poke you out of lane. You can't play totally defensive/scared or they will zone you and auto-win.