Leblanc.

Prime Arcanum··3 votes·1,255 views

First of all, Rest in peace My sweet princess. After the Nerf, Leblanc has become EXTREMELY hard to play. The Fact that she has had the backbone of her kit taken away, she is hardly viable anymore. She cannot lane like she used to, and she has little to no wave clear. Sure she can still do huge damage when she attempts to trade, but if the enemy can pay any attention, she will most likely get outplayed and take more. If you dominate your lane its because your extremely skilled or they have an incredibly bad mid laner.

Am I just a retarted bronze, or am I right about something here?

Besides, before she was not that hard to counter.

All you needed was a little ranged waveclear, a safe playstyle, and a good gank or two early game and she was literally a wasted pick on the enemy team. If you picked someone who has huge range against her, you could easily harass her off of cs and poke her to death anyways. Brand, Xerath, and Vel'koz could EASILY do this. I played against a Brand within the past month where I got dominated so hard.

So someone, please. Am I playing Leblanc wrong and just showing my true bronze colors, or does Riot need to fix this.

{{EDIT}} it was me being pretty bronze. gotten better since OP, still playable, just harder. Thx Rito.

14 Comments

Drogmyre4 votes

Her lane dominance was only part of the problem.

She could 100-0 ANYONE once she got Mimic. She didn't just bully midlane by existing, she projected her threat damn near GLOBALLY.

Basically, seeing a Leblanc on the other team meant 'Hide yo bot, hide yo top, cuz LB be raping EVERYTHING up in hea.'

Prime Arcanum2 votes

Your right, early game, she was able to do that @ lvl six. If you were having this problem, you weren't playing against this right. For instance, whenever she roamed, make sure that you pinged missing and noted it to your team in chat. then you should have pushed your lane like you were having a baby. i ASSURE you, hiding your other lanes would not have needed to happen if you had done that.

And if you did, and your other lanes were still getting killed by this, this isn't your fault, it is thiers. just whenever she bought mobility boots, you should have given your team a heads up. and pushed. like the rudest Dinger ever.

Drogmyre1 votes

That's true, and I 100% agree with you there.

However, Solo Queue is usually populated with morons who have yet to discover that Supports aren't the only ones capable of buying wards and on top of being selectively illiterate (someone called missing? better not read chat ever.) they also seem to have no idea how the ping system works (so even if you call missing in pings and in chat they're still going to be 'suprised' and call 'noob mid no missing')

I don't play mid much, it's not my preferred role. But +1 for making me laugh my ass off at 'pushing like the rudest Dinger ever.' well played sir. Your comment is fucking hilarious.

Solidair34 votes

She definitely can't do any match up anymore, but if you practice her, I assure you you'll be fine.

LeBlanc has a high skillcap and mastering her is still worth it. She's easily my most played champ, and honestly I've been doing okay without the silence.

Direwolfiez1 votes

Seriously? You're trying to say that she was made completely unviable by the removal of her silence? Just because she can't faceroll anymore doesn't mean she's unviable. Now at least people can do something when she combos their face.

Prime Arcanum1 votes

as true as this is, it didn't need to be removed ENTIRELY. because she doesn't have the same presence anymore, she is completely inept in lane now. What i'm saying is, it would have Been better if they didn't remove the silence entirely like they did. a Duration nerf would have been MUCH better.

Direwolfiez2 votes

She can still 100-0 people after getting a few kills. Assassins shouldn't HAVE good laning phases, otherwise they'd be perfect. Just try thinking about overall game balance before you ask for your favorite champ to be buffed. I was bummed back when Lux's movement speed got lowered, but I knew that was reasonable, and I didn't whine about it. Why should LeBlanc get to combo people while they can't do jack shit in return? 0 risk, high reward plays like old LeBlanc's combo are ridiculous.

Prime Arcanum1 votes

That's the thing though. She can 100-0 people after getting those kills, but now its EXTREMELY hard if damn near impossible to do that anymore. And now that she cant do that in lane anymore, she is so nonviable. If she had received a less harsh nerf, or maybe if they had removed the silence but added some more viable waveclear, she might still work in the current assassin meta. But now the risk is SO much higher than the reward to pick her.

It Is I Emoto1 votes

She just got more counterplay and that's okay. I played her alot before the silence removal, and I knew how painful she was with the silence, making it impossible to do something against it. Now after the remove, I have to play more careful around mages with cc like annie, tf, lissandra.. because they can interrupt your w with cc-ing you. The duration increase for her W is extremly helpful for the late game, because she's all about decieving. I know how a whole enemy team tried to chase me, but the jukes were way too good :P

Probably rush a dfg, so your victim has less chance to survive your combo.

Prime Arcanum1 votes

Rushing a DFG on Leblanc is hard now, because she has some of the worst CSing in the game unless you are on fucking point with last hits, and other than her w/r combo, which is hardly useful pre-six and post six your trying to burst people with q/r/w. I would still totally try this, but its hard enough to make the cash necessary for the NLR, much less the entire item. Basically, riot nerfed her only efficient money maker. making money used to be easier because you would wreck people early and fall off late, but now you hardly make enough cash to make it out of early game. {{EDIT}} Then again csing on all mages is incredibly fucking difficult.

YMe1 votes

If you compare LeBlanc to the other assassins that are dominating the scene right now, then yes she falls short. LeBlanc is good at 2 things, deleting people and juking. She's somewhat viable right now but there is really no reason to pick her over a Fizz, Akali, Zed, Yasuo, or Ahri other than the fact that she's a lot more fun to play than them.

Tyrez1 votes

If you ask me she needs more nerf. I played against her as swain and I could do nothing lane phase. She could cut my health in half and I could not do anything about it. I don't think she takes much skill as it is easy to do damage and even easier to get away. I rushed a spirit visage and I could duel her after that but later in the game she could still easily 1 shot my allies and bring my health halfway down with her combos. Her skills are on a very short cooldown as well. I have no desire to play her as she seems boring and unfair to the enemies. When I play a moba I want to have to farm up to a point where I am strong enough to get fast kills. Not simply get them at the beginning just because I do too much damage.

WeedTits1 votes

The problem with LeBlanc (and Cassieopiea, honestly) was never the champions themselves. It was the bots that people were using. You pressed spacebar and it did their whole combo for you, including targeting and auto attacks in between spells. And on LB, this made it impossible to counter play. This basically made it as though you had 100% perfect mechanics when all you did was press spacebar. And when you do that as LeBlanc (or apparently Cass) in bronze/silver/gold elo, people don't know how/ simply can't counterplay it.

Bots like this DO exist. I've seen them. I've tried them in custom games just to see if they really worked. I was incredibly pissed when I found out that they DO exist, they DO work, and Rito isn't doing anything about it. And without a doubt, shortly after I make this post, a bunch of people will come along and tell you that the bots don't exist. Probably because they're using it themselves.

In reality, at higher elos, where people can have 100% perfect mechanics without cheating, LeBlanc wasn't that big of an issue, and to remove her silence without giving her anything in return completely gutted this champion. She will never be LCS material now. She brings nothing to a comp that someone else can't do better.

Blinded Melon1 votes

She deserved to die.

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