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Can we just talk about Lissandra for a second?

Miku Append·11/14/2017, 8:26:50 PM·12 votes·789 views

I swear to God, Riot has left her to rot with Mordekaiser . She's by far my favourite champion lore-wise and I love her theme, but it did not live up to the hype of her event several years ago. She's mediocre at best right now. She can win some match-ups, but sucks early game, okay-ish mid lane if you miraculously won it, and trash again in the late game. Her ultimate has been bugged for a while now where when you use it, you still die and don't get any heals off of it. She's one of the few unique mages I find in the game but also one that has a serious identity crisis. Is she supposed to be a tank? A burst mage? Sustained mage? Who knows?! She's decent against Fizz and Zed but that's kind of it unfortunately... Anyways, onto some suggestions to improve her.

  • Give her a new passive. As of now, Manaflow Band consumes her passive and essentially gives every other person with it a free Lissandra passive in return. While the new Runes on her have helped her out in a few areas, she's still hindered by her lackluster passive. I'd suggest a passive similar to Anivia's or landing three abilities on an enemy gives them Frostbite, which makes ally and minion damage enhanced and slows them by a percentage based on your AP (an extra 5% for every 50 AP perhaps)

  • Ice Shard's range is increased to 825 (normal) to 925 (enhanced) and AP scaling is up by 80%

  • Ring of Frost is fine where it is, so I'd suggest keeping it how it is. It's a good tool for punishing cocky assassins.

  • Glacial Path's travel time should be increased to 950 (is currently 850). This would allow her to engage faster or escape ganks a bit easier.

  • And now, the bread and butter of what gives Lissandra her identity... Frozen Tomb. Now, I gotta say, the bandage on this move is absolute ass and the heal needs to go considering half the time, if you're using it on yourself to survive, you're probably going to die anyways after that 2.5 seconds is up. So, here's the suggestion for this one... Remove the heal, replace it with an Ice Shield (temporary increased health based on your missing health, along with additional armor and magic resist) once you come out of it. As for enemy cast, they take increased magic damage while trapped inside it.

I'm no genius on balance nor am I apart of the balance team. If I was apart of the balance team, Ezreal would have been deleted from the game. Feel free to offer your opinions on this. I'm just a girl who is head over heels for her Icy Waifu Lissandra and want to see her become a better champion to keep up with the burst and mobility meta we are seeing currently.

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5 Comments

NTrumpWeTrust11/14/2017, 10:38:51 PM3 votes

Once people stop playing what's flashy i think people will realize how incredibly good she is in the mid lane. You have infinite mana with passive + mana band ( they need to fix the overlapping ), one of the best ults in the game, roam potential, great wave clear, she can out shove almost anyone, great CC. I have never been fond of her aesthetics so it's hard for me to play her, but she's in a pretty good spot.

JarodDempsey11/15/2017, 1:41:21 AM1 votes

Lissanda is the middle ground of burst mages. That is to say what she lacks in pure burst she makes up for in mobility and what she lacks in mobility she makes up for in cc. They are going to fix the manaflow band issue (soon hopefully).

-I think they should keep her current passive but perhaps add something to it. Personally I'd like to see a rakan passive but her shield is made of ice and scales off of ap. -Q is fine, the range is ok, shes really not a long range mage, shed be op with longer range q. -W is ok, range is a bit low considering many melee champs can hit her while on the edge of it, a good qol change would be to apply grounded as well as root. -E's range is simply too long to afford it the ability to be allowed for quick escapes which is fine bc it would be too op. A slight speed boost to claw would be nice but once again may verge on opness, if anything the ability could be improved by making the telegraph harder to see until the claw gets closer to the end. -R It was a (rare) good decision by riot to give her the heal on self ult but like you said she will likely die after with it if shes low when going in. This is primarily because she has relatively low mobility and no way to quickly escape after tomb. I do like the idea of a longer lasting but temporary survivability boost like an ice shield after self cast. Overall what her ult really needs is the removal of the cast time. I have lost track of the number of times ive been fucked simply because she finished saying freeze and her arm is up but the enemy hasnt been stunned yet.

Overall riot has made lissandra the jack of all trades of burst mages but -especially with new runes shifting new thunderlords away from sorcery runes and making it slightly delayed- she really needs to be more of a bursty battle mage, augmenting her passive and ult to provide more survivability would go a long way to fixing her current state.

Also, I personally love the way she looks. Her presence is absolutely chilling. She turns the very earth into ice and it bends to her will and parts in front of her as she moves. Shes an icecold badass and I cant wait to see more skins for her as well as hopefully more expanded lore when they finish the watchers storyline.

PokladnicaZla11/15/2017, 7:20:15 AM1 votes

Quick note. Her passive and Manaflow band consuming each is a bug and will be fixed next patch.

I agree with most buffs,but gotta add a few thoughts. Increasing her scaling on Q is a really bad idea.Giving it range was enough. No her ultimate.The whole set of changes is good,but I do think she would need the AoE damage on her R delayed until Frozen tomb expires.This is too keep her out ofthe area of burst mages,as she has so many ways to peel it's annoying for oppnents.Whatyou also could consider is myb increasing her snare durationat early lvls,but reducing it as you lvl it up.

And î oop12/8/2017, 7:22:58 PM1 votes

love her, wish her kit is more interesting, i would add something to her passive cause its a bit boring now and her e travel speed buff for sure. her ult is ok but i really love your idea, it makes her more characteristic cause it bends the ice itselfs after creating it