ARAM 70% win rate Champs

hufflepuffed·Aug 1, 2018·7 votes·9,898 views

Love ARAM, play it all the time, but there are a few characters that tend to be way to op. Two that always stick out to me are Sona and Ziggs, both range from 68% to 72% win rates. I feel that they end up making the matches unfun on both sides. I know there are a few other champs who have 60%+ winrates as well, but i thought i would focus on the top two. Is there a way we can just remove them from Aram all together?

Here are the links to the winrates below:

http://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/

https://lolalytics.com/aram/worldwide/platinum/plus/champions/

15 Comments

Pika FoxAug 1, 20184 votes

That just defeats the entire point of the game mode....

hufflepuffedAug 1, 20182 votes

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That just defeats the entire point of the game mode....

with the amount of champions in the game right now i disagree. I have literally been able to carry my team in a 4v5 with sona, i have gotten many pentakills with ziggs. One champion should not be able to have so much sway in a match. Its ARAM, it is suppose to be fun, but even when i completely destroy an enemy team with one of these two, it feels cheap, the win feels cheap.

Pika FoxAug 1, 20184 votes

Sucks to be you, but its aram. Its not supposed to be balanced. Theres always going to be broken champs because SR is the standard. It just means brand and fiddle will be the next busted champs, then so on.

hufflepuffedAug 1, 20182 votes

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Sucks to be you, but its aram. Its not supposed to be balanced. Theres always going to be broken champs because SR is the standard. It just means brand and fiddle will be the next busted champs, then so on.

I understand its ARAM, but they have made changes in the past to make it more balanced, such as adding the snowball summoner spell, or the healing pads that heal everyone. These made it more fun and balanced, where you can have more of a back and forth game. Sure there are times where you still get crappy comps, but once again my point is that no single character should be able to change the outcome so much. Simply saying "sucks for you, thats ARAM" is dismissive at best. I undersand there are more champions then just the two i spoke of as i said in my original post. But im not going to play along to your slippery slop argument. I chose in this post to focus on the two who have reached 70% win rate.

Pika FoxAug 1, 20183 votes

Again, its aram. You cant really complain the enemy has an OP champ when its literally rng based.

Beatrice fallsAug 1, 20183 votes

They need to tone down Sona, the self heal is way too strong, requires no brain to use, costs near to no mana once she gets 2 mana items, and shields the entire team for half their hp -,-

Imo they should just remove her from ARAM, she's been fucking up any rotative mode for years, ARAM being the main issue. And fuck "Sona mains", you can't "main Sona" you just press buttons like playing guitar hero lmao

Blu 1Aug 1, 20183 votes

They just need ARAM specific tuning.

EvLoFoAug 1, 20182 votes

Champs like Maokai Lux KogMaw Jhin Velkoz Xerath aren't much better than Ziggs or Sona. Their kits overperform on howling abyss to the point they consistently have a win rate of 60% or better.

Banning strong champs (or not letting people roll them as much) might be one way to address it. The downside to that is that you won't get a chance to learn them yourself or learn how to counter them.

I would rather see more dynamic matchmaking in terms of the champs that are assigned. For example, if one team rolls a Sona, the other team is more likely to roll a Ziggs. Or perhaps if you get Sona or Ziggs, your team has to put up with some champs that are trash tier for ARAM. That might take some of the "R" out of ARAM, but it would help to lessen the number of games where you stomp or get stomped.

AlienPrimateAug 1, 20182 votes

item 2013 I would like to know how Teemo has 60% winrate

EedatAug 1, 20187 votes

Because he and his shrooms are still really good. You can't just throw your shrooms in front of the enemies. You need to set up a field where your team is contesting and kite back into it. Plus, forcing the enemy team to spend thousands on Oracles isa big advantage by itself

InfernapeAug 1, 20182 votes

Not to mention minions are still dumb as shit. Throw it into them and it'll damage people around them.

Baka RedAug 8, 20182 votes

If we start banning champions that reach certain winrate, we will soon have no champions left to play. This is because every time a champion would be removed, aram "balance" would change and someone else would become 'overpowered'. I would prefer a banning phase before champion randomization instead.

JaspersAug 1, 20181 votes

A nerf to his W turret damage wouldn't go amiss. When you only have 1 lane of turrets, it becomes easy to just push them down, other champs like Nasus or Sion got stack buffs because it's harder to farm so things that are designed for SR might need to be nerfed if too strong.