Yasuo's winrate spike is because of a bugfix, not the Tank build

ƒoes··10 votes·1,485 views

Now, I understand this is a post about Yasuo, by a Yasuo main, so before you downvote, hear me out.

We've been discussing over at the /r/YasuoMains subreddit what caused his winrate to spike into what it is now. Ultimately, we don't like his current situation. Let's be real, you wouldn't like it if your main had a 40% ban rate in all elos.

Frozen Force (or what you may alternatively know as Tank Yasuo) has been around for a few patches, coined by ArKaDaTa, an EUW Challenger Yasuo OTP. Before the most recent patch, Yasuo has had a relatively unproblematic winrate up until this patch, 6.17. There were no changes made to Yasuo, except for a tiny fix to a bug that would make Yasuo unable to autoattack after casting his ult if it was a critical strike. So, with this evidence, we can take Tank Yasuo out of the reason why his winrate spiked.

In the video above, it demonstrates that Yasuo can cancel his autoattack animation by casting R, which causes slightly higher, but noticable, damage per second. So now, instead of the usual e>q>aa>r>aa combo, it's now e>q>aa>aa>r>aa, a total of 3 autoattacks that all apply critical strike damage if the Yasuo has 100% crit, as well as adds 6 more Fervor of Battle stacks, which give him bonus damage on his autoattacks. His ult also gives him 50% armor penetration, which is added on top of damage from Fervor stacks, Q damage, and critical strike damage. This "bug" was nonexistant in Patch 6.16.

Tank Yasuo can be a minor factor in how high his winrate is, but isn't why it spiked. The build (agreeably) forgives him for any mistakes he might make, and yes, makes him much harder to deal with. However, the bug itself is the reason why his winrate spiked.

I wanted to shed some light on this before Riot hits Yasuo in the wrong spot, so he isn't unnecessarily gutted.

Thanks for reading.

14 Comments

HaloDragonX3 votes

Really? Or the tanky build got popular and the winrate spiked overall BECAUSE IT HAD A 55% WINRATE LAST PATCH.

Pika Fox1 votes

Tank Yasuo is a free win waiting to happen.

No damage, not tanky? Oh boy. Give me that free Trundle win.

ƒoes1 votes

Yasuo overall had about a 51% winrate last patch. It spiked to 56% this patch after the very small bug fix. I agree he's in need of nerfs, but the bug needs to get out of the way first.

HaloDragonX1 votes

His tank build had a 55% winrate, which is what I said.

Sona x Rubick2 votes

simple: fix the bug and see if the win rate moves

Getcuxcd1 votes

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simple: fix the bug and see if the win rate moves

simple: it will move from 61 to 55 which is still nerfable no he aint getting away with it AGAIN

ƒoes1 votes

That's what I wanted to see Riot do, and that's another reason why I posted this.

The nerfs hitting the PBE however will abolish Tank Yasuo, and that's a change I can agree with.

Getcuxcd1 votes

lel another yas main that thinks a bug fix will let yasuo slip yet another patch without nerfs bronze 3 too LEL he must know guiz hire this guy for the balans tim

ƒoes1 votes

My rank doesn't determine my knowledge of a champion. I've played over 350 games as Yasuo and I'm pretty certain I know a lot more about the champion than somebody who complains about him.

Getcuxcd2 votes

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My rank doesn't determine my knowledge of a champion. I've played over 350 games as Yasuo and I'm pretty certain I know a lot more about the champion than somebody who complains about him.

over 350 games with yasuo and still stuck in bronze 3? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL uninstall asap pls

Spicy Rice1 votes

I think everyone here would rather you uninstall for being a complete douchebag

Getcuxcd1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YseA3O8o,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-29T22:06:11.000+0000)

I think everyone here would rather you uninstall for being a complete douchebag

no im acting like that because im sick and tired already of YOUR douchebaggery that is defending yasuo with TOOTH AND NAILS while hes blatantly obvious OP and oh ur silver

UR CLEARLY putting your personal feelings for yasuo when u talk about balance on yasuo because u have ALOT OF games with him and u cant give it up ur inlove with yasuo and uve become a biased scum that would never admit that he is op buy a conscience please

ƒoes1 votes

I actually disagree with Tank Yasuo. I don't build it very often because I just don't like the build or how it feels. I'm defending Yasuo mains who don't like Tank Yasuo, either. Believe me, there's a lot of them.

My rank is Bronze 1 with 36 LP as of now, my MMR was so high I completely skipped over Bronze 2. I don't play ranked too often, but a lot of my games I've won (25W 18L)

I understand your dislike for me, I'm a Yasuo main and I get it - I hate myself too. That doesn't disregard the fact that I feel like Tank Yasuo should get nerfed. In this post, I described that while it may have been a factor in Yasuo's high winrate, his spike was due to a change they made with his autoattacks after ulting. Basically, it's a bug that arose from a bugfix, which increased Yasuo's overall damage output as he can now autoattack 3 times during his basic combo rather than the previous 2.

I didn't want Riot to hit him in the wrong spot such as nerfing his base damage but the nerfs on the PBE are actually very clever and something I can agree with - it demolishes his damage output if he doesn't build crit.

Of course, with that being said, I can guarantee you'll still see some Yasuo's incorporate tank items into their build such as going Statikk/PD > IE > Frozen Mallet/Triforce because of the nature of the items and how successful the build previously was.

JustMonika131 votes

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lel another yas main that thinks a bug fix will let yasuo slip yet another patch without nerfs bronze 3 too LEL he must know guiz hire this guy for the balans tim

Oh look a salty Yasuo hater.

Anyways, Yasuo has been confirmed to be addressed at the soonest after the Worlds patches (6.19 the soonest) by Meddler. Particularly his Tank builds, but his regular DPS builds are probably going to be effected as well. At any rate, this bug is probably a huge contributor to his spike in his winrate, but there is no denying the fact that his Tank Builds were already making his winrate rise steadily since they became popular. There are no stopping the nerfs and any Yasuo main that's informed knows this.

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