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New keystone runes

qViruSp··1 votes·536 views

Ok. Sience we(players) do not have any additional info about keyrunes that you have shown us. Here are my concerns about them and as you will be able to see, each one is reasoneably justified.

Berserker. It will be out of balance for champions that have self buffs. Toplane : Kled Fiora (the 5 attack 1s combo) Adc: MissFortune Tristana Twitch Varus Lucian KogMaw Junglers: MasterYi Shyvana Udyr XinZhao Midder: Kayle

Perxie. It will be out of balance for champions that have single HUGE burst dmg. Judging by the short film that you Dev have shown us Perxie has 3s cd before another use which if I am correct gives you 1 skill boost per 3s and you have to "come and get her" If that is the case then: Toplane: Darius E with Perxie, then flat W, flat Q, and R with Perxie and byebye full tank Naut Jayce Perxie + Boosted shot beybye 1/2 hp of anything Gangplank Normal barrels if that dude gets farmed are op but with Perxie - Angel of deth has come from the barrel of the Black Pearl Teemo "Here taste my Perxied Q" - annoyment to whole new level - 20 out of 10 Mid: Annie "Tibbers go F*** them" Syndra "The balls of judgement" Ziggs "Owh teamfight? They have 3k hp ? HERE GOES PERXIE BOMB" Zed "Best assasin always tresure the Perxie" Lux "PERXIMACIA HAAAA!!!!" Supports: Lulu"Perxie and Pixie my 2 best friends to change someones life in to a living hell"

And now THE BIGGEST OVERPOWER that you could possibly come with. THE OVERHEAL. I again remind that I am judging only by provided data. IF "Overheal" gives you and your teammates armor of value of 100% of heal you cast and they recive then.

Toplane: Illaoi "DethDance+Sterak+SpiritVisage - 1 v 5 ? Sience when is that a problem?" Darius "Well there were 5 of them at Nashor pit, I just felt I have to solo them before I took Nashor" Fiora "Does anyone need free AOE shield ?" Vladimir "U wanted to kill me ? I am Drakulla MOTHA F****" Supports: JannaSoraka The whole new meanning of PURE AP builds

Those examples are just a tip of the iceberg because of WHOLE new poke avalibilities of perxie, OP shields/immortality of overheal and limitless AS of berserker.

Now reasonable solutions. Berserker - DON'T remove AS cap under ANY circumstances, just DON'T. Even for a brief time. Cuz 3s is all what good Twitch player needs to kill whole enemy team as it is NOW. I do not even want to immagine what will happen if you remove his AS cap. Overheal - 2 solutions:

  1. Shield can only stack up to 10-20% of max HP of caster/target
  2. Shield can stack 100% of heal recived but only for duration of 2s then 5-10s cd That should prevent PERMA bann at Illaoi, Darius, Vald, Fiora and Aatrox Perxie - 1 use per 10s never less cuz Annie, Syndra and Zed will get perma bann anyway. That will at least keep Ahri, Vel'Koz, Akali and Xerath players happy.

Those were my concerns and solutions I came up with. Thank you for reading. For all vocabulary mistakes I am humbly apologising but I am not native english speaker. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

2 Comments

SuicidalTurnip1 votes

I disagree with you on a few of these.

First would be Fiora. She doesn't need an AS steroid, she likes damage over attack speed. It's why you don't see her being built with much in the way of AS, only Triforce and maybe BORK. I can see it being strong on Kled though, for sure.

With the ADC's, both Lucian and Miss Fortune don't rely on attack speed. They're better served with Lethality/Armour Pen and Flat AD. The rest I agree.

I agree on the Junglers and on Kayle. It'll be pretty strong on them too, but the Junglers need to get close enough and stay alive for 3 seconds in a fight before they can get their steroid.

Perxie I basically disagree on all of it apart from Lulu. Perxie seems insanely underwhelming and it won't do enough damage to justify taking it on carries. It's wholly a support focused item. I imagine it'll be good on Soraka and Sona too.

Overheal concerns me on champs with innate healing, especially Vlad who can just spam his Q. However, i feel as though overheal is wasted on Janna, as her only healing is on her ult which she'll use to disengage or on low HP targets, and it won't be used to effect on Soraka. Sorakas heal costs 10% of her HP, she's not going to spam it for the sake of a shield.

You also have to realise that there have only been 2 keystone and 1 major rune revealed so far. There will be many more to come that will synergise well with other champs. Just because these runes make champions stronger, doesn't mean they'll be OP. If every champ is made stronger with the new runes, which I think they will, it'll be fine.

qViruSp1 votes

The problem with heal is that if you have overheal rune you can actually shield others. So right now Darius who stacks bleeding that counters Soraka, won't have an easy task because Soraka with ult will give global shield to whole team in teamifght inicial phase. Ao Dariuses early bleeding won't do a thing. And as it goes for Janna, are you sure that redemption + Janna ult heal combo won't give a HELL ammount of shield to whole team ?

As for perxie. Just immagine shroom Teemo and if you don't step at all shrooms at once each time 3s passes you will get Perxie Sprout in da face - the whole new meaning of PS. As for Annies ult. If she has 4 spells used I consider Pierxied Tibbers OP. And the fact that if Annie dies Perxied Tibbers will chase you is even more horryfing.

As for berserker junglers. Sience when to any of the listed ones. Getting close is an issue ? Only maby to Shyvana when she doesn't have ult and enemy team has ccs and I mean HEAVY ccs snare like Lux Q or Varus,Braum ults. Because if Leona will get heroic and goes stuns on Shyvana. Then Leona W I L L die.

When it comes to MF I agree that she is not THAT AS dependable, but when it comes to Lucian I could not disagree more because EACH shot is -1s cd to him that is why you build BOTRK on him not Deathdance or smthn else.

As perxie it self. It makes additional dmg to enemies and additional shield to allies. Do you see Lux here ? Goes perxie ult. normal Q normal E and then perxied W on allies. Another example OP - possible pokes of Karma

As for release, I know we know nothing but so far of what RIOT revealed we have all reason needed to be both curious and concerned.

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