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Problems with League

googleeman·11/5/2016, 6:09:38 AM·1 votes·329 views

I love posting cause I always get responses. So I'm a bad player but not bad enough to lose as hard as I find myself losing most times. I play with golds and plats who say I should be at least in golds. I play blinds because ranked is too much pressure and, consequently, I'm silver 5 because I never really play ranked at all. I think I suck though but maybe Gold 5 is a rough idea of where I'm told I average out at. Also, I'm just going to say it, the match history says nothing about a player. If someone goes 17/0/2, it doesn't show how they got that ratio. Maybe the team literally set them up every time. Maybe 17 KS's. Who knows. Same applies for bad ratios. 2/6/2 doesn't say anything about -he had no support -it was a 4v5 -he got jungle camped -enemies roamed bot -he received no ganks -no teammates helped -etc etc etc. So don't bring up ratios as if they mean a damn thing because they absolutely don't.

Anyway, I have a few problems with this dumb stupid ass game that ruin it for me and I'm wondering if anyone else does to?

First and foremost, does it bother anyone how Riot just blankets punishments for players regardless of circumstances? I got a day ban for skipping too many lobbies when I had trolls before the game. One such case was where three people insta locked a support champion (janna, bard, and some other dumb champ). This seriously sucks so much ass it's unbelievable. Especially around this time of year when everyone seems to be trolling. I'm being punished for not wanting to play a game with 2 or 3 trolls? Come on Rito. It just doesn't seem like they care for their players experiences. Don't say they can't do anything because I'm sure that they probably could think of something if they tried hard enough. After all, it's what they're paid for.

Following that, wtf is the deal with players justifying their dumb actions by saying "It's just norms"? I don't even have anything else to say about that. It's completely disgusting etiquette and it's unbelievable that nothing is done to players like this. Fed whole game? "Just a normal". Troll picked? "Just a normal". Like come on, find a way to screen for these pests.

Thirdly, I'm officially silver 5 yet whenever I play a normal, it's against golds and plats? Wtf is that about? Before anyone says, "You learn more from playing against better players" although that's barely true, it's impossible to learn when dead the whole match. Tonight night I've played two matches and been on the receiving end of beatings with teammates that were severely outclasses by our opponents. First match, 4 low ranked silvers and one gold 5 vs 4 golds, all 4 or higher, and a plat 4. How can anyone justify that? Second match, 3 low silvers, 1 gold 5 and one level 24 player vs 3 silver 1s, 1 gold 4 and one unranked. This happens almost all the time for me. It's sickening. Does this happen to anyone else so reliably? If so, do you know what the hell is happening?

Finally, there's absolutely no way to improve. How can someone get better at this game? Regarding the aforementioned issues, I don't even have an opportunity to learn how to do things better. If I'm on a weaker team in general, there's just no play potential. So aside from doing well in the lane phase, there's nothing really to do about anything. With all the troll teammates, it also makes the learning impossible. If the enemy is so fed that they can one shot you, it can't be considered observing an "outplay", it's observing "the benefits of being hyper fed". AKA Not a learning opportunity. AKA game was a complete waste of time.

Does anyone else encounter these issues? Are there any ways to get around them? Or possibly even fix them? Please let me know. Riot doesn't do anything for players having a bad time. Maybe the community does?

5 Comments

Deep Terror Nami11/5/2016, 6:29:58 AM2 votes

First and foremost, does it bother anyone how Riot just blankets punishments for players regardless of circumstances? I got a day ban for skipping too many lobbies when I had trolls before the game.

If there were no punishment for dodging then people would dodge and dodge and dodge constantly until they got exactly what they wanted and the match favored them as much as possible. The queue times would be horrendous, favoring only the people causing it.

I highly recommend you stop playing Blind Pick. The mentality there is childish autolocking, and trolling if they didn't do it before someone else. Play Normal Draft Pick; not only does it secure everyone's role in a reasonable fashion, it also prepares you for Ranked which also uses Draft style picking. You won't ever get put into a mirror match, but the pick/ban phase means you won't always get your desired champion (especially if it's a popular pick).

wtf is the deal with players justifying their dumb actions by saying "It's just norms"?

While there is no excuse to not make an honest effort, people do use Normals so they can practice or try silly strategies or just have fun without stressing out. If you're not prepared to have teammates that aren't "tryharding" you probably just want to go play Ranked. You can't always have it where everyone plays like it's Ranked if you're not in Ranked (Blind Pick is also worse for this compared to Draft Pick).

I'm officially silver 5 yet whenever I play a normal, it's against golds and plats?

MMR is separate between Normals and Ranked. Playing Normals will not affect your Ranked MMR and vice versa. Again, if you want to play according to their Rank you have to play Ranked. Even when you do face higher Ranked opponents in Normals, they frequently do not play optimally for the reasons I mentioned earlier; they practice new things and don't tryhard more often than not.

I, for example, might play some ADC to practice for Ranked. But because I went from S4 to P5 as almost Nami only my skill with everything else does not match it. I absolutely will not be able to perform at a P5 level in other roles, but luckily my Normals MMR is not that high.

there's absolutely no way to improve

There's always a way to improve. Maybe you're just in the wrong mindset. I feel that I improved the most after 6.5 months of not player at all. Instead, I was watching the LCS, streams, I read guides, and I otherwise paid attention to how high elo players were doing things I'd never see in Silver. Once you decide you can't improve, then you won't anymore. Just take some time off and observe players that know what they are doing and read some guides.

Sarutobi11/5/2016, 6:30:54 AM2 votes

Honestly a lot of your complaints aren't really complaints. First off Riot doesn't ban people without reasons. You got punished because you were breaking the rules. When you click play you are agreeing that you will complete the game no matter what. Yes people will troll, but thats how the game is right now. They cannot make it where you dont get punished for leaving your games because everyone would do it without any reason to do so.

So now if something like that was in place you are basically saying you are fine waiting anywhere between 30-mins to an hour or more just to get into a game because people will leave for any reason. Some people dont have that kind of time. Most people can only play a couple games a day/week and you are alienating/forcing them to not play all because you want to have the perfect team. Sadly thats never going to happen. Nothing is perfect and this also is the case with people. People will troll and you are solving nothing when they get away with it in Champ Select. For now we have no way of reporting people like that, so we have to play the game in order to do it.

As for your "It's just Normals" complaint. it's just childish. You are basically in the mindset of the Meta, and loads of people especially people who have been playing for a number of years (including myself) are just bored of it. I like seeing off meta picks (what most people consider Troll picks) because it improves how people play the game. Not everyone is the same. People play differently and if you cannot do so much as even accept that you probably shouldn't be playing a Multiplayer game because this happens in every type of multiplayer game! People use that excuse mainly because its a fact. Normals are for people who are lay back and what to relax when playing. Test out new builds in a PvP environment. If you want the seriousness play Rank its that simple.

Lastly you dont seem to understand that Normals and Rank have different MMR. Just because you playing with Golds/Plats in normals doesnt mean that is the Rank you should be at. Let alone you probably played more Normals than Rank so IF you played Rank as much as you did Normals you probably be at a higher Ranking. All it comes down to is how often you are playing!