Lee Sin, Q to strong.

Rygo·Apr 14, 2017·14 votes·1,141 views

I've been playing league of legends since technically its very first beta. But nothing in this game could tilt me harder then facing a lee sin with his Q. It does more damage then most ults and is on a 2-3 second CD. How the hell is this even remotely balanced. Before i get flamed with the usually learn to play and other non-sense, or the grammar police. Even in the pro scenes the team with lee-sins tend to win all the games. LCK he's 8-0 in terms of pick/win rate. It is beyond aggravating to have someone with 1 ability chunk you to half life, then 2 seconds later finish the job with the same ability. And yes its a skill shot, that is on a literally 2-3 sec cd, so you miss you turn around and fire off again 2-3 seconds later.

14 Comments

RygoApr 14, 20176 votes

Let me add onto this more. He is picked 42% of the time, the highest of any champion. The next highest is ahri at 22%. There is a reason he's being picked 42% of the time. Mind this is Plat+ players

NGNL AsianApr 14, 20174 votes

How about we revert the ult nerf and nerf that fucking bullshit Q :)

BALDG1VEN BOOMERApr 14, 20173 votes

Most Lee Sin players run TLD, I think this is honestly the reason as to why his Q feels really strong early on.

Also in addition to assassin mastery that gives him an extra 2% damage when alone.

Troy242621Apr 14, 20178 votes

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Most Lee Sin players run TLD, I think this is honestly the reason as to why his Q feels really strong early on.

Also in addition to assassin mastery that gives him an extra 2% damage when alone.

Q1: Physical Damage: 50 / 80 / 110 / 140 / 170 (+ 90% bonus AD) Q2: Physical Damage: 50 / 80 / 110 / 140 / 170 (+ 90% bonus AD) (+ 8% of target's missing health)

Has nothing to do with TLD, Lee's base damage is just incredible. Granted his W doesn't deal damage, but his E has solid base damage as well and is magic damage, and I don't think I need to bring up his ultimate's damage, even after it was nerfed.

BALDG1VEN BOOMERApr 14, 20171 votes

Well I mean these small things do add up in terms of his burst. I see your point though.

Volibear BossApr 14, 20172 votes

340 base dmg + execute dmg, wow.

Asayake 5150glowApr 14, 20172 votes

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340 base dmg + execute dmg, wow.

And 180% bonus AD scaling.

Oh, and because I hate Galio: 305 base damage, 115% AP scaling, 6% max health.

Wow, they didn't actually nerf his base damage... it went from 300 to 305... losing the 4% max health damage is good though, but he REALLY did not need compensation buffs for it (15% extra AP scaling).

Oh, and please don't tell me to dodge the tornado. A lot of the damage is loaded into the first hit, and the first tick is nearly impossible to dodge because of the Tornado's size.

I'd love if it had a longer duration, slower ticks, and if the damage was more backloaded into the tornado. That would make it bearable, although the 6 second cooldown also needs work. That's why it ticks so fast, actually. So you don't notice the absurdly low cooldown as much.

Galio's gameplay pattern: Miss Q, hit E (huge hitbox), passive auto, Taunt, throw down another Q.

True SightApr 14, 20172 votes

Yeah riot pls nerf, because this is a skillshot that cannot go through minions and can easily be dodged at mediocre range, better reduce the damage it does and punish all Lee Sin players for playing him properly :/

Sun Wu RyuumokuApr 14, 20172 votes

Lee Sin has 47.5 % Winrate in LCK.

And yes its a skill shot, that is on a literally 2-3 sec cd, so you miss you turn around and fire off again 2-3 seconds later.

Its false... not in early.

It does more damage then most ults

Lel

MunchCrunchLunchApr 14, 20172 votes

hes usless late game. get over it. we need to stop this bullshit perception of only mages and adcs are supposed to kill people at all points of the game

Asayake 5150glowApr 14, 20171 votes

This is completely true, but it's more of a 4 second CD once he gets his Warrior + Cleaver.