Idea for Scaling AP+CDR item for mages
Hi, I was wondering/thinking about AP + CDR item and found a few prior threads regarding this topic:
- http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/VEQNNo77-why-isnt-there-an-ap-item-that-gives-cdr-and-raw-ap
- http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/V4axFLY8-we-need-another-ap-cdr-item
- http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/pLpAO4hR-is-there-a-new-ap-cdr-item-in-the-making-or-even-considering
And this reddit thread that Riot Xypherous replied to:
After going through previous comments, here's what I came up with:
#Option 1a
- Recipe:
+ 
+ 1350 G = 3100 G - Stats:
- +60 ability power
- +10% cooldown reduction
- +50% mana regeneration
- Passive:
- Gain 1% cooldown reduction 50 bonus mana
- Gain 1 ability power per 20 bonus mana
- Gain 20 additional ability power upon reaching 40% CDR
- Active:
- None
##Observation:
- Upon building the item, still only sitting at 60 base AP from , when the mana item completes, we get
: 10% + 16% = 26% CDR; 60 + 40 = 100 AP
: 10% + 20% + = 30% CDR, 60 + 50 = 110 AP- Requires other sources to reach 40% CDR, give bonus AP as incentive for doing so.
#Option 1b
- Recipe:
+ 
+ 1450 G = 3100 G - Stats:
- +65 AP
- +10% cooldown reduction
- passive and active is same as option 1
Observation:
- 5 more base AP than option 1, no mana regeneration, steeper build completion cost...
#Option 2:
- Recipe: + + 1050 G = 3100 G
- Stats:
- +85 AP
- +10% cooldown reduction
- Passive
- Gain 1% cooldown reduction and 1 ability power per 50 bonus mana
- Gain 20 additional ability power upon reaching 40% CDR
- Active:
- None
##Observation:
- Higher base AP than previous 2 options, weird AP numbers :(
- : 10% + 16% = 26% CDR; 85 + 16 = 101 AP
- : 10% + 20% + = 30% CDR, 85 + 20 = 105 AP
I think this item would satisfy these goals:
- Have scaling based on Mana so that it is weak / useless for mana-less champion
- A big part of the bonus AP is completely determined by bonus mana, so no need to adjust champions' base mana / mana regen
- Complement / synergize with and , so you can build this while sitting on
or 
respectively - Due to 2 scaling items nature, it is not as efficient as building
or 
alone; but upon completion, the amount of AP, mana, and CDR gained is greater - You can build this item with or to get 30% CDR, and get 20 bonus AP with additional 10% CDR commitment, but there is no bonus AP gained from bonus mana
- Encourage reaching 40% CDR, and reward for doing so
Some cons are:
- Really tight binding to mana stacking, might need a cap on bonus AP gained through bonus mana
- In case user build say + +
because... :( - Pretty much niche / narrow scoped item for scaling and synergies with mana stacking items
- Only get this if you really want to play safe and scale, otherwise, lacks early damage and pressure
Off hand I think 
would make good use of this since she needs the mana. While champs that are on the mana hungrier side would have an alternative build option to just getting , such as 
, 
, 
, 
, or maybe even 
,
. Abuse wise, maybe 
, 
, 
as they have relative short cooldowns already.
