I just realised how easy it is to lengthen matches / stop snowball. Give that bot tower the 5 minute tower damage reduction buff. Isn't this stupidly simple? It stops hard and slow snowball, the damage they deal post 5 is negated and it basically stops the possibility of fully taking the tower also post 5 minutes
considering 40% of a team is bot lane and once that tower falls bot jg and mid can just 4 man shove mid id say f yes! Games can get out of hand fast if you just get 4 manned bot god forbid they tp and 5 man it then just rotate all over. I mean yea it's a somewhat risk move but freeing up 40% of the team to roam is opop!
They will just switch lanes with top in the beginning
100% agree. I'm not an ADC main but with the removal of crit and item price increases, I do feel for ADC players, especially those that play weaker early game champs. It wouldn't hurt anyone to give botlane towers some resistance; prevents early ass 4 min dives and 5 min bot tower first blood into 7 minute bot to top rotation where enemy adc is like 4/0 with greaves and BF sword into 15 min FF.
They never had to introduce the lower resistances botlane turret to begin with. And for a very simple reason - it was a change put there to force a specific META (force proplayers to stop laneswapping). While the laneswap META was really boring to watch that change was a horrible fix for it, and contributed a lot to "only botlane matters" and "4v2 botlane party" METAs, which are boring to play
Buff all towers, drop the damage reduction mechanic.
Buff all towers.
Literally the only reason they made it the way it is instead of how it used to be (all towers are equal) is because pro players will lane swap if they don't want to face their bot picks in a 2v2 and then it becomes a base race
And while its a fair system that has counterplay and nuance, Riot apparently is upset that pro play doesn't look similar to the normal games an average League player is in. So they're totally ok with 4 people from each side being all over bot and making life hard as long as it's a 2v2 both in normals and pro... which is kind of ruining normal games for the sake of making pro play look more similar to normal games.
Buff them all. Yesterday, as a split pushing Trundle with Herald, the Herald too 7/8ths of a Inhib turret on it's own. I was in shock at the damage. They need to deal more damage and all these things that do bonus damage to them need to do less.
Dark Harvest, Demolish, Herald, all this extra damage needs lowering and I'm saying this as a someone who likes playing Yorick.
Fk yes.
But also, to stop the whole lane swap meta All towers as strong as each other. Perhaps give them a damage buff for the first 10 minutes. Like reverse wukong passive. The more enemies there are, the faster and harder is hits people. Junglers can cast smite on the tower to temp disable this ability (so it doesn't impact jg play, only the stupid lane swaps :P)
You don't want to keep tower if you're losing that hard. It soaks xp and gold income
A Few people here do not seem to get the picture. They will NEVER buff this turret, even though it would be the absolut right so solution to balance the game out again. The reason is the same as it was when they implimented that change. Pro play. In pro play a lane swaps was the standart for seasons and riot didnt like it since the first 10 - 15 minutes were teams not really interacting with one another and early pressure champs couldn't be played. To force adc und suppport to stay bot, they made the bottower incredibly weak to stop them from just giving it up.
If u change the tower midlane and jungle would stop being the slaves for botlane, since they can just as well pressure their own lanes. ADC und Supoort would lose power again and we could start balancing everything out without botlane being the coinflip to win or lose every game. Midlaner would once again roam to get strong themselves, not just to make sure their lane isn't feeding their ass off and thus losing the game. But this change will never come because the lcs makes money, so we can keep dreaming of balance but will never again get it. Even Faker is sick of it, that should show just how fcked up this all is.
This is a change I've been crying for since they gave the boy tower less resistances than the other ones. They only did this to stop lane swapping in LCS. That is the literal only reason they made the change at all. No one lane swapped in solo queue. No one. And when they did it in the LCS I dont feel it was a huge deal honestly.
Giving it more resistance would stop the four man dives bot lane and would redistribute the pressure on the map far more evenly.
Y'know, here's a weird idea for a tower buff to specifically attack the "4 man bot mechanic".
"When a tower is firing at a champion, it also shoots a tiny laser at all other champions in range."
The exact damage would need to be worked out, but I. think something along those lines would actually punish 4+ tower dives.
maybe the towers need to have adaptive Damage, armor, HP.. maybe have towers gain stats based on how many enemies are in its range.. so when there is a 3 or 4 man shove on tower there is a good chance the tower will kill the person taking the aggro as well survive the incoming damage.. just seems kinda BS that given a large enough wave an adc and support can take down the tower with ease after they kill or force the other adc/support to recall.
this is actually a good idea we need a rioter to read this
I just lost bot lane. Came back with banner of command. It's easy.
The bottom tower has the 5 minute damage reduction if I'm not mistaken. I thought you were going to say give the bottom tower 7 - 10 minute damage reduction like it was in season 6.
MUH LC$ BIG PLAY$$$
FFS STOP SAYING TO BUFF THE TURRETS!
Incoming turret nerf.
They purposefully made the bottom tower weaker to prevent constant lane-swapping
what if riot buffed the turrets to gain more dps and defensive stats the more enemy players crowd with a certain range.
overall towers need a buff. true damage i propose. towers were supposed to be hazard zone but with champs like warwick hugging your tower is no problem for him.
Towers are just there atm to steal cs nothing more.
Someone please correct me if I am not up to date with bot tower.
Is it not nerfed to be the weakest tower?
