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Vayne haters must secretly be....

Abstergo A27··3 votes·859 views

Volibear mains. Or some other 'underpowered' champions that can 100-0 you by getting one damage item like black cleaver,( cough xin zhao, cough jarvan 4, cough wukong, cough renekton, cough pantheon) or Triforce (cough irelia, cough udyr, cough vi) and 4 tank items.

Seriously you wanna complain about something? Complain about how top lane J4 can completely take over the game at LCS level. Complain about how certain champion's kit synergize with itself way too much. (looking at you irelia and xin)

Look at xin's kit and look at vayne's kit. I'd trade my vayne ult for Xin's W all day every day. Both champions have a 3rd attack proc, but Vayne's is balanced. Why? Because she has to build attack speed for it! It's not just chilling in her kit. What does Xin have to build? Whatever he damn wants. Want some black cleaver with that gold? Sure! What some Spirit Visage to tank face? Why not? Are you still gonna wreck with nothing but levels and your own kit? Bet your bottom dollar! Can vayne 100-0 you with bortk and 4 tank items? No? oh man how op!!

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Taredom2 votes

Are we really comparing Vayne to Xin here?

  1. Xin excels at the early game and falls off late, whereas Vayne is eh early and continues to ramp up.

  2. You're saying that you would rather have a moderate AS steroid and a mediocre heal (unless you build AP) over %max health true damage and flat true damage?

  3. You're complaining that the champs that can't get away with building full damage are going tank? The reason that champs like Xin and Udyr also build tank items isn't because the 1-2 damage items that they may build is enough, it's because if they don't, they'll explode the moment they go in.

Why have so many of these threads popped up lately? People comparing a ranged champ to a melee I mean.

Edit regarding point 2: I would happily trade my w for your ult provided it interacted with my kit the same way, stealth for a sec after I audacious charge, an AD steroid and a crazy MS steroid (charge would need to be a skillshot at this point though)

Comparing the two procs, yours defines you, xins is literally leveled last everytime, it's just eh for him. I feel like it's safe to say xin would want the true damage over the heal too.

Rustling Bush2 votes

and besides, haven't you not been paying attention to the cancer that is devouer vayne, played against some, had some on my team. can confirmed they're damage is ridiculous once they have a full stack sated devourer.

besides the whole attack speed doesn't necessarily mean anything when she is the only champion outside of the new fiora that can do % true hp. which is very well complimented by the fact that sated now activates this on her 2nd auto and not 3rd, mind you their nothing you can do to build against this, thus its cancer of the highest caliber.

also i'm no vayne player but the steroid + stealth she gets from ult in the right hands can potentially be the most damning thing about her.

but what do i know, i'm just a silver scrub

Taredom1 votes

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and besides, haven't you not been paying attention to the cancer that is devouer vayne, played against some, had some on my team. can confirmed they're damage is ridiculous once they have a full stack sated devourer.

besides the whole attack speed doesn't necessarily mean anything when she is the only champion outside of the new fiora that can do % true hp. which is very welly complimented by the fact that sated now activates this on her 2nd auto and not 3rd.

also i'm no vayne player but the steroid + stealth she gets from ult in the right hands can potentially be the most damning thing about her.

but what do i know, i'm just a silver scrub

Doesn't sated also double the damage from the proc or is it worded to prevent that? I've heard that's how it interacts with Vi W.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

I believe that for one-X-hit effects (such as Jax's R passive, Diana's passive, and Vayne's Silver Bolts) it only affects the count. Basically, you would proc the ability on every second hit instead of every third hit with Sated Devourer.

Taredom1 votes

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I believe that for one-X-hit effects (such as Jax's R passive, Diana's passive, and Vayne's Silver Bolts) it only affects the count. Basically, you would proc the ability on every second hit instead of every third hit with Sated Devourer.

I understand that but would it proc the damage twice? Thanks for the response btw.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

No it wouldn't. Those abilities work by granting you a "buff" that will be consumed on your next autoattack.

If you get the phantom-hit from Sated Devourer while the buff it up, one hit will consume the buff and it will not be reapplied on the other hit.

It essentially works the same way Spellblade does.

Taredom1 votes

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No it wouldn't. Those abilities work by granting you a "buff" that will be consumed on your next autoattack.

If you get the phantom-hit from Sated Devourer while the buff it up, one hit will consume the buff and it will not be reapplied on the other hit.

It essentially works the same way Spellblade does.

Thank you very much, I was curious about this! I had a feeling it worked this way but was unsure.

Its All Skillzz2 votes

http://i.imgur.com/HkXM5hT.png

Can vayne kill you with sated devourer and botrk and 4 tank items. yea she can

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

You would trade an AD steroid, free move speed and one of the strongest kiting mechanics in the game that allows you to 1v1 90% of the champs in this game for some attack speed and a small heal?

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