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Remove ancient dragon

Phishye·1/7/2020, 4:33:08 PM·37 votes·13,268 views

This is the most anti-fun mechanic that this game has ever had, no matter youre winning or losing. You either get it and completely destroy the enemy team with no counterplay at all, or your incompetent jungle gets outsmited and you lose the game, no matter if you were super fed and got 3 inhibitors. There is not counterplay at all in this buff, besides letting the enemy take baron, and your inis and lose the game. Riot designed it so that there are no 50 min games, but this is flawed cause it can spawn at minute 24 if your team and the enemy do the drakes at a decent pace. They either need to change it so the execute treshold is much higher (id say 10% is more balanced) or completely remove it. At least remove the burn damage so you dont get poked by a random ability and die. This season i rush my games hoping i dont get to this abhorrent, antifun, stupid overpowered mechanic. It feels making your whole lead or the enemies` completely irrelevant. Its like a golden point in lol, you get it you win, and i do not think it fits with the game.

32 Comments

Inkling Commando1/7/2020, 5:05:54 PM11 votes

So this is why players avoid taking drakes so that the enemy can't take elder and turn tide.

xDogMeatx1/7/2020, 5:34:33 PM4 votes

hey i said this before Elder is Exodia aka auto win once someone takes it. the only counterplay to it is to kill the people to remove the buff. heres the kicker though imagine trying to kill a Morde with his damaging field with this buff on solo 1v5 or have the whole team too tanky to die as a bonus brand or malz love extra DOTs.

boricCentaur11/7/2020, 8:36:09 PM3 votes

No it isn't. The buff isn't a insta win AND STOP ACTING LIKE IT IS. Do you actually know how little 20% hp at 40 mins is even 30 mins adcs can crit for more damage.

Edit: it really shows how hypocritical the boards are that I'm getting downvoted. If damage was too high like the boards say then elder is bad since you're already over killing champions, and a lot of post complaining games are too fast get upvoted BUT GET WHAT NERFING ELDER DOES NOTHING THERE and if games are too fast then elder actually needs a buff.

Zullar1/8/2020, 10:11:23 AM2 votes

Agree.

Remove all the dragons while you are at it. Elemental drakes cause a large power swing one way or the other and there is no comeback mechanic. Playing a game at a massive power deficit with no comeback mechanic isn't fun.

Crescent Dusk1/8/2020, 2:06:12 AM2 votes

shrug most of my games are over before elder even spawns.

RyzeRework1/8/2020, 8:16:40 AM2 votes

I mean elder is meant to end games? If teams cant end games then elder is there to push it. No the team that gets elder doesnt automatically win that's just not true, the more important buff is the soul. It's a way stronger constant effect.

SirStingy1/8/2020, 2:47:25 PM2 votes

Im in high gold where we cant end games that well and sometimes after winning every obj and team fight the other team steals elder and we insta lose the game. Im fine with elder dragon as a concept but the execution is ridiculous and shouldn't of been added to the game.

9mm Valentine1/8/2020, 6:34:58 PM2 votes

I just almost carried a 4v5 but since the enemy had a Vi, they got elder and it was over. Pretty whack.

TrikzterzArma1/8/2020, 6:59:36 PM2 votes

If you're on the winning team and haven't won by the time Elder spawns, the other team deserves a chance to comeback

Zetto1/7/2020, 11:33:47 PM1 votes

Idk why everyone saying elder dragon buff is unbalanced, idk about you but i love walking away from a fight and getting executed at 1400 health cause the enemy adc hit me with shiv lighting :) /s

(This actually happened to me, 50~ minute game ended when i got executed as sion jg with 7.5 k hp.)

edit: https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3249855059/218647250?tab=overview

Fragile Noodles1/8/2020, 12:11:34 PM1 votes

Lets be honest if you get the soul you should already have won...

Or maybe not

Since Moutain soul and Cloud soul both suck so bad...

But i find it more annoying that we can be ahead with a soul, then the elder dragon is forced to spawn and the enemy has a chance to comeback since they can just send a jungler to try and steal it, and if they do steal it...

Well the team who originally got the biggest advantage auto lose.

Quáx1/8/2020, 2:42:44 PM1 votes

I see it around once in every 15 games. Personally I've come to accept the execute and think it's fine. Basically, if you're in a teamfight and get to 20% hp chances are you're gonna die in a second or 2 after that anyways. It's also a nice comeback mechanic, I've used it a couple of times with steals.

Clockwork Mouse1/9/2020, 8:41:53 PM1 votes

I was in this really good match. My team was finally coming back from a defeat as we reached our optimal team fighting capability. It looked like it was going to come down to 1 good team fight and we had an advantage with our comp. But then the enemy team got that drake and then our whole team was deleted! It was so unbalanced, i couldn't believe what I was seeing!

McKuntalds1/7/2020, 11:50:52 PM1 votes

Remove League from earth and free tencent slaves from wandering SR in blind rage because the MM is rigged and teams are mismatched so badly the game is over at the 5 min mark .

Buy skins fellas ! They need your money! Hahahah

Trusting1/8/2020, 1:34:26 AM1 votes

"At least remove the burn damage so you dont get poked by a random ability and die." Only that i agree with because that also procs elder

Hordes661/8/2020, 4:27:35 PM1 votes

Riot doesn't second guess anything they've already pushed into the rift. I'm not sure they even think it all the way through once. Sorry, riot doesn't admit mistakes and we are stuck with it

KICK OUT AT 21/8/2020, 7:51:13 AM1 votes

It feels much stronger than baron for sure. Giving everyone a passive garen ult probably a bad balance decision.

Stephenizgod1/8/2020, 5:21:50 PM1 votes

This is the most anti-fun mechanic that this game has ever had

yea no. This is far from the most anti-fun mechanic they have ever added to the game. You must not be a long time player.

Elder is a bad addition to the game, it really should be removed. However, I rarely ever see Elder in my games, either no one is taking dragon or the game is over before it spawns. So while it is a dumb mechanic it isn't something that is a problem in every single game.