Why am I consistently the worst player in the game?

rdNomad·Sep 24, 2016·40 votes·4,966 views

Hey, im slightly confused. I have about 20pvp games played atm, so I've only really had time to practice playing top lane. In top lane I don't think I'm catastrophically bad, and I'm able to win my lane about 50% of the time.

However in Every other position, I suck ass completely and absolutely. I don't think I've ever been matched with a lane opponent who I'm better than. I've watched so many coaching videos, but I just can't figure it out.

Ive been working on cs, and I can get to about 40 in 10 minutes. This isn't good, I know, but I'm working on it. My question is, am I missing something? What is the most important thing I should concentrate on when laning? Is there a particular mindset I should have when prioritizing objectives or positioning myself relative to my lane opponent?

Sorry for the wall of text

106 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 24, 201660 votes

you have a total of 20 pvp games? that's it? man your aren't bad you just inexperienced ... there is a lot to this game to master.

rdNomadSep 24, 201613 votes

Haha well hopefully one day I'll crack it. I've never been called bad at something so many times in such a short space of time :')

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 24, 20164 votes

sadly that is the state of the community a bunch of hateful lil cu nts everywhere.. people fail to realize people have different learning curves , it takes a while for people to pick up things or find their niche in this complex game... people want to think my champ beats your champ therefore I win cuz I out 1 vs 1 you and its not that... this game isn't mortal combat. halo, or checkers

this game is like chess... its based on objectives and map control. the best thing to do is forget the hate and flaming I know its hard... and just focus on what you need to improve on... game knowledge, fundamentals etc ...

there is a lot to learn in this game. and biggest secret you need to know is you don't have to be diamond or the best player in the game to play the game and have fun... that is what is about enjoying yourself and having fun

win and loses happen. some you have no control over. don't get too big on the wins and don't dwell on the loses to hard. control what you can control.

if you want some help and guidance I suggest you look up last shadow on youtube... he is a former pro coach, a Korean diamond player and a shout caster on the LCK he has a lot of good information videos /coaching videos etc that can give you a lot of insight.

Sir FuzziSep 25, 20164 votes

Dude, boards have no filter.

Why you doin' that weak-ass spacing garbage? What is this, 2002?

Creepy BubbleSep 25, 20161 votes

What a savage

SinlaireSep 24, 201626 votes

I agree with the guy above. you dont get to play 20 league games and wonder why you're bad. you need 200 games to "grasp" league, 400 to be decent, and 600 to be knowledgeable to good.

there are over 130 champions in game with 4 abilities and 1 passive each, making for 5 integral parts of each champions kit that can cause you to lose a fight and die at any given moment if you dont know exactly what each of those 5 are when you start the fight. that alone makes for you to need to understand over 650 skill and passive effects just to keep from feeding in this game.

along the way you also have to understand which champion does magic damage, physical damage, true damage, in what ratios, their relative cooldown times at all stages of the game, and their potential levels of burst and sustain at roughly all possible levels of being fed/under fed.

if that isn't enough for you, you also have dozens of items in game that also have their own effects built to synergize with their champion, or negate your own. think you can win a fight? item 3153 on activation STEALS 10% of your maximum health, and then gives it to the owner. he just turned the tables with one button press that isn't even included in his skill set.

So now after memorizing 650+ skills and abilities and how each champion functions you now have to learn how/ what they build in order to help them or hurt you. this includes how they or yourself could change that build freely to provide a different advantage based around different team comps and stages of the game.

need MR and wanna block paltry cc? item 3102 Need to block specific cc and deal damage with mr? item 3139 wanna boost heal and get MR? item 3065 want MR and double team fight presence? item 3026 want damage and MR WITHOUT worrying about cc? item 3156

every game is a choice not only in how you play, but in how you play against the enemy team. get caught out? you messed up. built armor when all of the magic damage dealers are getting ahead? now you're just an idiot. dont cookie cutter build. learn exactly what you need to buy and when to keep yourself alive and them dead.

once you can do all of that, then you're good at league. 20 games wont get you there. by the time you actually get good, you look at 20 games like a weekend playing top AP Yorick because it was funny. and trust me, once you're good, it will be.

DecritSep 25, 20162 votes

Also add that in thig game even a step can matter. Allt hose fancy winrates slapped left and right can go all to trash if you do a single important misstep, and the same applies to your enemy. The variance of power in this game can be huge even with little details.

SpoofghoulSep 25, 20162 votes

you mean you need 400 games to grasp it and 1000+ to be knowledgeable

[slayer-pantheon-rainbows]

JbelsSep 24, 201630 votes

Congratulations. By asking this question, you have taken your first step to self improvement. You're to be commended on how early you asked as well, even level 30 players have yet to ask themselves that question. As for your poor performance, it could be anything this early on. You might not understand how each champion plays compared to others, you might not be getting the right feel for each other lane you try besides top lane, or maybe your playstyle just isn't gelling well with the rolls you're trying.

My suggestion is to find a good champion that you like/enjoy playing, and find out what roles that champion can play. If there are any other than top lane, I would try it out in those other roles. Learning something new is easier to do when you're doing it in your comfort zone

rdNomadSep 24, 20168 votes

Thank you for the advice man. And you're right, I have absolutely no idea what 80% of the Champs can even do :')

Dr PoroSep 24, 20162 votes

Every time you load into the game, alt+tab during loading screen and look up your lane opponent and jungler on lolwiki. After a while, you'll know most of your lane opponents and you can start to look up any champion in the game that you don't know yet. I think it's indeed best to focus on one or a few champions until you've figured out the basics and then try out any free week champion. That's what I did.

Also, don't play to win your lane, just going even is enough. If your goal is to CS while not dying, you'll end up actually killing your opponent more often because eventually your jungler will gank your lane and you'll be there to share the kill. If you don't know whether you'll win a fight, don't start the fight. Then again, as a new player, you sometimes have to test out your strength. However, if you play a champ for the first time, play safe in the early game and test your lategame strength first. If you test your early game strength and you lose, you'll end up having a rather boring game.

Oh and if you're looking for builds or you like statistics, I suggest http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend

General TherittSep 25, 20162 votes

Don't start the fight. Unless you're one of these mofos who goes all-in balls deep and keeps the AD carry in shock: Maokai Malphite

AthenasVendettaSep 24, 201613 votes

Go to customs, don't add bots. Just farm do so until comfortable with the cs per minute. Then add one, two and then normals.

rdNomadSep 24, 20162 votes

That's a good idea, thank you. I'll start doing that

UlriahSep 24, 20166 votes

You're just new at the game, everybody was really bad at some point, don't worry about it.

Just keep playing and ignore the trolls.

S0kaXSep 24, 20164 votes

Don't try to battle your opponent unless you know you're gonna beat him or your jungler is there to help you.

chipndip1Sep 24, 20164 votes

I mean, you're consistently the worst player in your games because you're consistently the worst player in your games. Just gotta start working on improving. Main thing I find with "weaker" players is that they do things like look at guides, memorize the meta "rule book", general concepts of the game and how that translates into wins, their strengths/weaknesses, etc. and so forth, but they suck at actually applying that knowledge well and consistently. They also make weird mistakes and try to justify them with whatever. Biggest issue weaker players have, in my mind, is that they know how THEY want to play and how THEY want the match to go, but they don't know how to read intent from the enemy, so they get baited or bamboozled just as much or more than they actually make plays and beat others. Understanding enemy movement and positioning can be a good tell for when something's up.

BLACK REALM GODSep 24, 20163 votes

it's most likely your rune/masteries/keybindings/MS and FRAMES/limited champion knowledge/inability to last hit/poor resource management/low map awareness.

tell me your experiences with each of those and i'll try to help or identify issues.

rdNomadSep 24, 20161 votes

Runes : um, yes. I only have tier 2 ones and kinda just take what seems okay. Same with masteries. Keybindings: I just use the defaults MS and FRAMES: I get about 43ms at best, but I average 60-150. I have to wait until my family is out of the house though because when they're in I average 350-400. As for frames I get about 50, which drops down to about 30 during big team fights. Limited champ knowledge: can confirm Inability to last hit: yeah I'm working on it :') Poor resource management: I do my best but I'm only just really starting to take mana management into account. Low map awareness: Yeah I sometimes miss advantageous trades happening right next to my lane.

RocketRelmSep 25, 20162 votes

You're lucky to be joining now. It was only recently that the Tier 2 runes became 1 IP, and tier 1s eliminated. You'd used to have had to spend hundreds of IP on t1 and t2 runes if you wanted them, for all of them tone utterly invalidated by time you reach lvl 20 anyway.

That said, once you master CSing to a degree, realize your enemy has to CS also. When you see your own minions getting low, and your enemy predictably going to hit it because they want the gold, this can be an opportune time to hit them with a spell, or an auto attack.

Perhaps not a skill you can focus on while still unconfident in your own CS, but it's the next step after you succeed at that.

Lil Gr33n GhoulsSep 24, 20162 votes

Haha, you're not bad, you just need to play more! You sound like you've already done some research and maybe you've watched some vids on youtube which is a good thing. If you haven't I would recamend checking out youtube channels geared toward's education. For Jng I would suggest Foxdrop and Stonewall, for ADC (and to some extent support) I would suggest Phylol, and for mid consider Redmercy. Redmercy is more entertainment based but he still has some quality guides and such. I'm sure they're many more good sources for learning lol on youtube, these are just the one's I know. Right now focus on learning how to CS properly, and take advantage of the free champions each week.

If you want to jng try to stick to junglers that have easy clears like Warick Warwick , Fiddlesticks , Nunu Nunu , and Shyvana Shyvana . Playing junglers that have easy clears will let you focus on things like map awareness, ganking, ect. The skills required to clear the jng with more difficult champions like kitting, AA resets, and the necessary runes and masterties will come with time. You shouldn't try jungling until you have smite available and probably lvl 18 so you can use the Strength of Ages keystone mastery.

Basically, just play the game. Don't be afraid to play bots more either.

Spaceman5pffSep 24, 20162 votes

There is a special place in my heart for fiddlesticks.

I hate playing him now, but he was the first champ I got hooked on. Countless games spent being buttraped by Miss Fortune Bot as fiddle since greivous wounds (back in the day).

I remember my first PvP ever, I disconnected as I was channeling my ult for a fight. Reconnected with 3 more kills than i had before [slayer-jinx-catface]

Lil Gr33n GhoulsSep 25, 20162 votes

Fiddle was my first pentakill :) I ulted into dragon pit from behind the wall, stole drag and got the penta. They were all low from a team fight team fight that killed everyone on my team except me and we were pre-lvl 30 so almost no one warded.

Spaceman5pffSep 24, 20162 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gabDB5-5OdY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBWn2y9xrDE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MSiHUbsZcc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B71Wpqb6ddY

I might have a bit of a hard-on for Phylol, but it is because he knows his shit, and teaches in an easy-to-understand way. Watch these vids and, when you are comfortable CSing, try to pick ONE thing to focus on every game. You play toplane, right? That is a great lane to practice this stuff. For example, you could work JUST on trying to land skillshots when people stop moving to hit a cs. Or, you could work on punishing enemies for walking into your creep wave.

Who do you like to play toplane? My reccomendations for champions when you are learning how to lane in Top are Darius Irelia and (Renekton to a lesser degree since he isn't super meta ATM)

Irelia is nice because she has a very simple-to-use kit, and the way she plays helps you naturally learn how to manage creep waves (trading when you have creep advantage etc). Renekton is not that hard to pick up if you make sure to learn his basic trading combo E->AA->W->AA->Q->E And he has plenty of space to improve as you master him, also he is a good introduction to animation cancelling. Darius is nice because he has relatively low mana costs and is super fun.

You don't have to play those champions, but they helped me learn a lot about laning. Especially Irelia, who if you had to pick one of the three, is the one I would advise you learn.

PC Trash Go AwaySep 24, 20162 votes

What you should do is get some friends or family to play LoL with you. Game is gonna lose it's charm real fast when you have to deal with nine random players every match, hoping they won't fuck you over or look down on you. Don't think that adding strangers you meet in this game to your friends list will help, cuz you'll have to play around the obscure free time and schedules of people who don't live near you and who you don't know. I don't have anyone out of the people I know to play this game with, and I've quit playing because of that.

LatetotheRaceSep 25, 20162 votes

Realistically? Well that depends. Are you a smurf or a new player. If smurf, then likely the system has matched you with stronger players. If new player, that's due to there simply being too many smurfs in the game for you to do well. If you continue to play until lvl 30 and get some games down, the system will find a nice place for you to do well or at the very least go even with your fellow players. Don't sweat it, it'll fix itself before too long.

JainaProudgurlSep 25, 20162 votes

Well, really its a multi-step process. There's several key things you need to learn to become a good player.

First, you need to understand that CS at most times is better than going crazy for kills. In a 40 min game, your CS should be roughly between 350-400. This amount of minions is equal to prob about 8k Gold, which would buy you 2-3 items. In comparison, if you were going even with a champ, and got 300g per kill, and lets say you killed them 10 times. That seems like a lot, but that only rewards you 3k Gold. So first rule, CS > Kills

Second rule counters the first rule. This rule is that when it gets late into the game, its better to push as a team and win team fights. This is because by this time in the game, timers are generally 30 secs or more for respawning, allowing ample time to push if you ace them and take objectives. Unlike killing champions or CSing, Objectives give X gold to each player, differing based on what you took and if you helped. So Second Rule, work as a team late game

The third rule is learn to predict. This becomes more important the harder your opponents are. Predicting an opponents dash and then flashing and W'ing as poppy to counter it can make a huge difference. So learn to predict how people will play.

Fourth and final rule of thumb: Don't specialize in one role. Playing multiple roles helps you understand how other roles will react in certain situations. For example, it will teach you that mid laners prefer to get people to crowd in an area and quickly burst them, top laners prefer to initiate, and ADC are great at focusing out singular targets.

Also, as an extension to this rule, you need to find characters that you enjoy in every role. this doesn't mean do well with them. You need to find a champ that you can play over and over and over and enjoy and get better at. For example, I'm a Taliyah main. I played her as soon as she released, and I loved her. When I first started, my KDA was almost always horrible as hell. By the end of that same patch, I reached mastery 7 on her and played over 100 games with her, getting to the point where I had an 80% win rate with her in ranked, and a KDA that was astounding to see. It proves that if you truely love a champion, you can master them and beat the odds, because at that time, Taliyah's win rate was at 35% and I was easily winning double that amount of games.

So my tips?

CS >> Kills Early on (With an exception on First Blood) Push with your team late game Predict your opponents And find your preferred role and character, but be willing to adapt.

FastAsHeckSep 25, 20162 votes

By asking this question you have already surpassed many experienced players. League is a complex game, and you've only just scratched the surface. If you're able to win your lane 50% of the time you should be damn proud. You'll get better as you play. Right now all you need is devoting time to the game and getting used to situations.

Jungle Lux GodSep 25, 20162 votes

You have 20 pvp games under your belt. That is a very good indicator that you are bad, but at the same time no one plays 20 games and becomes half-decent. Being bad after 20 games is perfectly reasonable, especially for a game as difficult to pick up as League of Legends. It's important to keep in mind that millions of League of Legends players were once also level 20 players that were really bad at the game, and that you are taking a step that every League of Legends player reaches in their lifetime.

The best way to improve is to just play tons of games. Who actually cares if you lose? It's just normals. Obviously you should still be trying to win the game, but at the same time there's also a lot of stuff you need to learn, and just playing is a really good way to learn. It's even more useful if you go into a game with a midset of what to work on. If you go into a game with a mindset of "I'm going to practice last hitting" or "I'm going to practice trading with my lane opponent", then you learn so much out of the game than with a mindset of "I'm going to practice League of Legends". Then, when you start getting the hang of doing these actions in a vacuum apart from each other, you can work on integrating them together.

Then there's also a problem where there's no one mindset that will win you the game. If I tell you that you should prioritize towers over Dragons, then you might prioritize the wrong objective in games where you do need to prioritize Dragons. If I tell you that Rift Herald is never worth taking, then you might avoid it when Rift Herald is actually the best objective to take on the map. The point I'm making here is that the mindset that you need to take in a given game changes dramatically depending on the game, and knowing what mindset to have in a particular situation depends heavily on the state of the game.

The one mindset that is actually stable throughout any game is that objectives are generally worth more than kills. While it isn't worth getting aced just to take a turret, it is worth losing a teamfight 2-3 when you take a turret or a dragon and the enemy team doesn't. It's also significantly better to get damage on a turret from getting your opponent to back when he gets low than to risk trying to get a kill from turret diving a low health enemy, and possibly not getting the kill or trading 1 for 1 in a situation you had in your favor. It's one of the biggest mistakes that many League of Legends players make, and one that every player should learn not to make.

Finally, I recommend learning one champion well, and branching out into other roles and/or champions from there. If you want to learn a new role, see if any of your favorite top laners can play in that role. If you want to try out a new champion, see if you can play them in the top lane before you try them out in their normal roles. This is easily the best way to learn something completely new because you only need to learn 50% of what you'd normally need to learn with a new champion or role. If you play your top laners in the mid lane, all you need to learn is the lane dynamics of mid because you already know the champion. If you want to try out a new top laner, all you need to do is learn a new champion because you'll already know the lane dynamics. However, learning one champion well is important because having that one constant with what you need to learn in any given game makes it significantly easier to learn because you don't need to constantly relearn more than the fundamentals every game.

I do have to apologize for my wall of text, but there's so much to learn about League of Legends that it needs a lot to write about. It's nearly impossible to cover every possible facet of League of Legends in a single guide, and a lot of what goes on in League of Legends needs experience in order to truly grasp. Just keep playing, and eventually you'll improve enough that you won't be bad.

Around999PeopleSep 24, 20161 votes

Hey! Honestly you can add me and I'd be happy to help out.

So, it really depends on what champion you play as. Some focus more on cs and poke. Others on cs and waiting to go all in. But cs is often the deciding factor if you're even on kills. I've had games where I went from like 1/9 to 17/10 after I farmed a ton and got my items.

Raven RedeemedSep 26, 20161 votes

Unfortunately he is on a different server, unless you have a EUW account.

invisiblecat1Sep 25, 20161 votes

It isn't just the mechanics that matter, you need to have good decision making and know what every champion in the game does in order to play other roles, or else you will just feed, or lose

A DoorknobSep 25, 20161 votes

You're level 20. You're usually playing against people in High elo at that level, you just don't know it. People smurf all the time. You may be good at your level but you wouldn't know it because of the amount of smurfing that exists within the game. Your team is probably filled with them without you realizing it. Just your best and try to learn. Look at how the itemize at the end of the game.

AuroramancerSep 25, 20161 votes

Hey man, veteran player here.

Over all the years I've been playing League, the one thing that I've learned to be very important is to not feed.

On that point, when laning, learn to get your farm and exp without dying or feeding.

After you've gotten down the "not dying" part, then work outplaying your opponents and just plain being better at trading against them.

This is of course advice for solo laning.

Proficiency in the support role is a lot different. There's a lot of macro-play involved, such as proper warding, safe warding, split-attention in team fights, and positioning.

Godspeed in your journey

VallalanSep 25, 20161 votes

if you are new, you are going to be matched against new experienced players constantly who will know the basics and have more knowledge.

when laning and new just focusing on last hitting, and trading.

you trade when your minions get low and they are going to go to last hit. the weird thing is this isnt a 100% rule. sometimes you don't. you will learn when is a good time to go in for a trade and when isn't. Cannon minions are easy to trade on because people will over committ to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iko2tqmDpJQ

General TherittSep 25, 20161 votes

A good thing to learn is also the complete strengths of a champion's state. Learning when they are powerful or simply not effective. For instance, Jax is a very heavy late game champion, who has a crippling weak early game, but basically becomes the god of duels in the lategame and can lock a kill on the opponent AD carry if their position is bad. Or Jhin who is a strong early-mid champion who focuses on ranging teamfights or catching an opponent off guard and starting the teamfight. If you want a really good sense of scale and focusing on CS, pick Malphite . You can basically attempt to ignore your toplane opponent and farm and piece and use the CS to scale into lategame as an initiation tank that is really hard to stop from just annihilating squishies from the blast, and having a serious team followup.

TerranHybridSep 25, 20161 votes

As long as you keep trying, and continue to learn and get better, you will never be the "worst". A lot of the player base right now will get utterly toxic over nothing. Don't let it bother you to much.

"Stay calm and keep farming!"

SaiannaSep 25, 20161 votes

However in Every other position, I suck ass completely and absolutely. I don't think I've ever been matched with a lane opponent who I'm better than.

I had the same feeling but.. Tbh.. It's just feeling mate.

You might be worse as TOP versus other top laner, but maybe you are better teamfighter?

It all boils to easy thing as are you passive or agressive player. Agressive players seem to be doing more, but they lose just as often ;)

SolidariusSep 25, 20161 votes

Since you mention top lane and I main top , Ill give you a few hints:

Always know your matchup, this will be easier as you gain EXP with champions and their abilities.

by "matchup" I mean know the champion your playing can win vs the other enemy champion, tie with them, or worst case is that you got countered and lose the matchup.

BTW Skill does matter so this is not always true, but due take note, usually a champion like Pantheon will SHIT on Teemo 9/10 times, but there are cases where you can win vs a counter champ, just takes a long time to gain knowledge of how to do this.

so taking my example of knowing that your Teemo will most likely lose because of the matchup, you can play accordingly.

Play smart, farm/ward/ ask for ganks, DO NOT FEED, aka give the enemy kills.

the fun thing about Pantheon vs Teemo matchup is that late game temmo will make late game cry a lot.

so yeah, my advice to you is simple, learn as many champs as you can and know there skills ect, you can do this via bot games ect ect or go to any leage champ website and find whats "strong" vs what champ.

The best place I recommend is going to your summoners profile and then going to "champions" and start reading about champs in there, by clicking on them.

good luck to you!

Sailor GalaxiaSep 25, 20161 votes

You can try playing bots a lot (I think i have like 2k bot games by now lol) or if your irl friends also play league ask them to coach you or play w/ them. Just keep practicing and don't mind the toxic ppl because you inevitably will encounter them. Keep playing if you like the game and don't let them break you. xx

420 gramsSep 25, 20161 votes

If you're a low level, you're probably playing with smurfs (high level people who make new accounts). Keep practicing, when you start losing, play passively by your turret.

Weasel KenseiSep 25, 20161 votes

Well top is the easiest lane (only delusional hardcore top mains think otherwise).

Why is top the easiest lane? Its generally a solo 1v1 lane. Only one real angle to gank from (river, tribush) and its fairly easy to ward against. Less need to keep an eye on the near by objective.

Now botlane is a 2v2 and a prime gank lane for the jg. You have to keep an eye out on 2 people trying to poke you as either ADC/sup. You need to keep any eye out for the jg both ganking, invading, and going for drag more.

Mid is like top, but it has like 6 ways you can be ganked from. Also the other prime gank target because its usualy an assassin or AP carry in that lane a jg will want to shut down. Not to mention top and bot can roam mid easily.

So lets look at the pros for ganks in each lane:

Bot: Possible double assist/kill for jg, better dragon control, snowball ADC/sup.

Mid: Possible assist/kill for jg, possible dragon control, snowball AP carry/assassin.

Top: Possible assist/kill for jg, possible hearld control (much less attractive than dragon), snowball top.

This means you may see ganks top only if you prove to be an easy target, otherwise top is just often a 1v1 lane. You wont be seeing much roaming from bot lane. If your jg is pressuring mid any, and your mid laner is doing ok, then its less likely you will see mid roaming top.

Top is just the easiest lane on average. Maybe not every game, but theoretically, statistically, via the META top will be the easiest.

So why are you bad at the other roles? They require additional skills, more awareness, more game knowledge, more MOAR!

Keep trying, watch some videos, take advice, ask questions. You will get better.

TheMinezSep 25, 20161 votes

Let me put it this way, nobody becomes good at chess by playing only 20 moves. You just need to play more games.

EmollientNut0Sep 25, 20161 votes

If it helps there's a lot of aspects of this game, but I would probably focus on laning before you worry about getting better at the rest! The top 3 things that will make your laning phase better:

1: Getting better and better at farming. 2: Learning how to trade with your opponents, when to engage and when to back off. 3: VISION. I'm currently Gold 3 on my other account, and at that level proper warding during your laning phase will very literally win or lose you the match.

Hope this helps friend, good luck.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

ItsOrvalSep 25, 20161 votes

You need to trade the opponent out of lane so you can farm harder and be 2 levels above them. Then just freeze the lane at your tower and stand ahead of the minions, keeping the enemy out of range from the minions. This makes them tilted af and will usually beg for their jungler to help them. If their jungler helps them, odds are youll get a triple/doulbe (depending on your lane) because youre 2 levels ahead of your opponent. Jungling, just farm and gank lanes that are pushed to your tower, pretty easy.

lvl 2 lagspikeSep 25, 20161 votes

Its kinda hard to say what you're doing wrong just off what you wrote... But considering you only played 20 "pvp" games... all I can say is just keep playing... right now you should just learn to CS better and get to know champs and builds and mechanics.

ElikainSep 25, 20161 votes

20 games is an awfully low number. My advice is that you don't concern yourself with other roles or champions outside of a few that you find interesting. Getting familiar with your role and a champion takes time, not to mention the time to learn how to lane properly and maximize your efficiency before you attempt to make juicy plays.

The key to being a better player is consistency. Consistency is achieved with 2 things:

learn how to lane well (general game knowledge)
learn your champion well (specific champion knowledge)

Your success is guaranteed to be higher if you understand these things. I'm sorry to be a bit vague but you will also start to understand these things when you play game after game, for hundreds of games. The sheer number of games might sound a bit high however, even if you play an entire season casually, you should be able to get at least 300 games in. So no pressure. Play at your own pace and learn at your own pace.

If you wish to accelerate this, you may attempt to find some YT videos about things you are interested in, some guides for your champions and watch some streams on Twitch. For twitch, i suggest Wingsofdeath.

Raven RedeemedSep 26, 20161 votes

There a lot of people here with some great advice. Here is some advice I give to plays new to PvP:

Try not to take insults to heart. There are some pretty toxic people in league. Don't let them get to you because you are still trying to get a feel for things and (more inportantly) it's just a game, it doesn't matter if you suck or not. If you let people know you are still learning they might calm down.
Try to learn what each champion does and what all the items do. This will take some time because there is a lot to remember. You can start by learning who deals the most damage, who can stun and CC you, and look up guides on what items to buy on you champion. Once you know what the other champs can do, you can be a lot more confident starting a fights.
Work on team fighting. If you came from playing bots you probably do not have a grasp on what to do in a team fight because bots do not organize as well as people do. Some general tips: the midlaner and adc (marksman) are priority targets. Stay close to the team (don't chase enemies when they run). Supports should help the damage dealers if they need it and help anyone else if the damage dealers are safe. Adc's should work on killing the tanks first. Tanks should usually be in the frontline to stop people from getting to the damage dealers. Assassins should wait until important CC abilities have been used by the enemies so they can go in and kill damage dealers. Mages can work on killing tanks or burst a damage dealer if it is safe. And fighters can do whatever the situation demands. Playing ARAM is a pretty good way to practice teamfighting (since that is all it is) and it's also a pretty relaxed game type.
Have fun. An experienced friend can really help you learn, and playing with friends tends to be way more fun. Keep playing champs you like or think you might like. My personal suggestions for pretty easy champs to pick up for different positions: Jungle: Yi (damage dealer) / Nautilus (Tank) Mid: Lux (mage) / Talon (assassin) Adc: Caitlyn (harder to kill) / Ashe (simple abilities and has CC) Support: Sona (squishy) / Braum (tank)

Hope that helps a bit.

CastaneanSep 26, 20161 votes

Simple; Practise. Ye need more practical application of champions. You wanna become godly with a champion? Play them a lot. Learn their lane matchups and how to deal with them, yes even the bad ones. Especially the bad ones.

I'll try to keep this short(Something I am utterly terrible at), but here are a few tips for getting better in the long run:

**1: Don't become rigid. ** Learn to adapt. The game WILL change and you can't stop that. Items, Champions, heck even the map itself can at any time be changed, sometimes even by champions in the game. Don't get too comfortable, because things wont stay the same for too long.

2: Find your playstyle. Your unique playstyle, the things you do well and the things that work with you specifically. Note that this doesn't mean "Tank" or "ADC" or anything like that. I, for instance, work best with timing, huge game-changer abilities and CC I can protect or otherwise aid my allies with, thus I've grown into playing Sejuani, Veigar and Karma, whom all have those sorts of abilities. Notice how they are all champions in completely different roles, being Jungle(Sejuani), Mid APC(Veigar) and Support(Karma)

It's not easy to figure out, but once you've got it it becomes easier to spot what you might enjoy playing and/or might be naturally good at.

3: Adapt your items. Your choices of items matters a huge amount for your performance. Tying in with tip 1: Don't get too comfortable with a build. Learn to adapt it based on the enemy team as well as your own. Playing an AP caster with relatively low cooldowns and there's a juggernaut/kitable champion on the enemy team? Buy Rylai's. Enemy is building MR? Void staff. They got heavy burst on long CD? Get Zhonya's.

4: Number of champions. Now, I know it may be tempting, but if you want to really get good at the game, like, get REEEAAAALLY good, don't play too many champions. Don't limit yourself to a single champion either though. I've heard 4-8 champions is a good number of Main champions to have. Of course this doesn't mean you CAN'T play other champions, it just means you should primarily play a certain few champions you mesh well with and enjoy to play :P

Now to apologize for a REAL wall of text, have a TL;DR:

Learn to adapt. Be like the straw and bend in the storm when a tree would break.
Find your personal style. Nothing is more stylish than what suits you individually!
Pick items based on the current match. Why pick grass into fire when water exists? 4: Play the right amount of champions. 20 is a pretty big crowd, but 1 is kinda lonely.

If you need any help or have any questions, feel free to throw 'em my way and I'll do my best to answer/help out! I mean I know I'm not THE best, but I think I should be good enough to at least help a little bit :P (Also if you want to you can throw a friend request my way and we could talk over the LoL client instead of flooding the board. ONLY if you want to though.)

Good luck improving further! Hope you find success!

ThePikolSep 26, 20161 votes

I'm quite new player too and seriously the best advise to give to you is NO ADVISE. The advices people give you are great, but you I think you should start your game experience already overhelmed with knowledge what to do, while you lack experience. When you start to play more you will notice all that by yourself, when you will get basics then you can listen to advices and watching coaching videos.

-- I used to go whereever with anyone. Now I know meta and that item 3069 is not great on MonkeyKing . But try it and see wwhy it's bad. -- I used to build the same everygame, now I adapt mu builds because I start to notice what and WHY I should build something. Now I know who deal magic and who physical dmg. But try differend build on differend champions and see what is good and what is bad! -- I used to attack constantly minions as adc, missing a lot of cs, now I know how to farm. But do attack them and learn what over extending is and how important farm is! -- I used to play only Ashe, now I don't play her at all, so you don't have to stick to your first learned champion. So do try everyone from free rotation! See who you have fun with and get back to them later on when you know basics.