fiora

anotherbeerplz··3 votes·747 views

This hero used to be 1 of my favorites. congrats on ruining a hero giving it totally useless abilities.When will they learn to stop fixing what isnt broken

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HumanPerfect2 votes

At least if they're going to rework a champion then they should keep the same playstyle / spirit of the champion. Fiora was a selfish, 1v1 focused, turret devouring god(dess), much like Tryndamere or Master Yi. Not every single champion needs to bring team utility. Yes she was feast-or-famine, yes she was an "all-in" champion, but she's hardly the only one in the game.

I don't think Riot understands why certain "Fighters" work while others don't. This is why they never went through with the long-lost "Fighter Rework" that they promised years ago. Before this rework, they claimed they wanted to make her a highly mobile fighter but not an assassin. I'll let them in on a secret. Yasuo fits this bill. Even Tryndamere and Master Yi fit this bill. Know why? Because they have ways to survive that aren't strictly tied to their armor stats (ie, periods of death immunity/untargetability). Yes, Fiora has "Riposte" but that's not going to do shit. It's .75 seconds on an atrocious cooldown. So now, she has to either A) build squishy and get blown up in half a second or B) build as a bruiser as opposed to a fighter ie not what any former Fiora players signed up for when they bought the champion, nor was it Riot's stated goal.

Honestly, her old ult wasn't very bad.

One, it was very visually satisfying. Who doesn't like a good Omnislash? Secondly, the claim that it "had no counterplay" is ridiculous. Zhonyas, proper positioning and bushes, spreading the damage over multiple teammates, armor... Not to mention all the skills in the game that make you untargetable/invulnerable (troll poll, alpha strike, Jax's counter strike, Vlad's troll pool, Liss ult, Kayle ult, Tryn ult, etc) or stealth'd (Vayne ult, Akali's shroud, etc). Seriously, she's the GRAND DUELIST. That might tell you that you want to position properly and not try to 1v1 her if you are both even mid/lategame.

Now can her ult deal a crapton of damage even when your team is grouped up if she's incredibly ahead? ABSOLUTELY. But it is an ULTIMATE SKILL. If she gets fed then she should be rewarded. The ult MIGHT have been a little strong (though there's probably a reason why she was rarely seen at higher elos).

Her ult was far beyond unsalvageable. Let's look at the last change to Blade Waltz:

V4.20:

Blade Waltz Base damage reduced to 125 / 255 / 385 from 160 / 330 / 500. Bonus attack damage ratio reduced to (+90% bonus AD) from (+120% bonus AD). Damage on consecutive hits increased to 40% from 25%.

This was definitely a step in the right direction. If they really wanted to take it a step further then all they had to do was reduce the base damage further and increase the damage on consecutive hit so that it emphasized her role as a 1v1 / 1v2 duelist/skirmisher.

I mean, Tryndamere, Jax, Master Yi, Udyr are allowed to have their strengths placed strong dueling and mediocre team fights, why shouldn't the GRAND DUELIST? Full build Fiora used to be able to give full build Tryndamere and Jax a run for their money as top-dog melee duelist through proper timing of her skills, but now it's a no-contest. When 1v1s can last less than 2 seconds and teamfights less than 5, Fiora doesn't have time to AA, pause, move around behind the enemy, pause, AA, move to the front of the enemy, pause, AA, move to the left of the enemy, pause, AA, etc all the while getting her head bashed in by a sword larger than her entire body by a full-rage Tryndamere or getting CC'd and blown to pieces by the rest of the enemy team.

Mecha MaIphite2 votes

Her old kit was super boring tbh.

alaskaneagle1 votes

54367

it's more like taking something with a minor issue and curb stomping it till it's dead.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

She has only been out for a few days. Considering that her entire kit, playstyle, builds, and match-ups have changed people need time to relearn her.

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