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"It's just a normal"

Invitation2Hades··16 votes·1,106 views

Can we have something in place when it comes to these situations? I'd be extremely surprised if you have never came in contact with these types of people. For example, someone will not give it their all or even feed for that matter because they are under the impression that since it's a normal, it has no real consequences. They continue to do bad on purpose and if you politely ask (lets be real, even when asked in the most nicest way, you're gonna get backlash) to stop what they are doing, they just respond with something along the lines of "And? It's just a normal game, stfu noob". I can't tell you how angry I get when someone thinks this way and proceeds to do what they are doing, like feed your lane, feed in general, or just afk, because its... just.. a... normal ....game. Is there a way to report these types of behavior because its getting annoying real quick. If not, we need to have measures to counter this type of behavior.

Edit: Also please bare in mind, this isn't a thread about chat behavior, but the mentality people have when going into "a normal game".

39 Comments

archerno19 votes

Well normal exists so people could play casually, try new thing and not think about game that much.

Dragfin2 votes

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Well normal exists so people could play casually, try new thing and not think about game that much.

According to the sheep who created their own set of rules. Nowhere in RIOT's agreement or rules does it say this.

archerno16 votes

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According to the sheep who created their own set of rules. Nowhere in RIOT's agreement or rules does it say this.

Nowhere in riot set of rules it says people cant play bad either. Of course u shouldnt afk just because its normal, but u are perfectly allowed to play any champ u want, any build you want. Feeding is also not against rules, only intentional feeding (as in running to turret and letting it kill you without doing anything). And not just normal, all thats allowed in normal is allowed in ranked. "Its just a normal" is said to someone to stop bitching about it, not to excuse ones actions.

Dragfin1 votes

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Nowhere in riot set of rules it says people cant play bad either. Of course u shouldnt afk just because its normal, but u are perfectly allowed to play any champ u want, any build you want. Feeding is also not against rules, only intentional feeding (as in running to turret and letting it kill you without doing anything). And not just normal, all thats allowed in normal is allowed in ranked. "Its just a normal" is said to someone to stop bitching about it, not to excuse ones actions.

Where did I say anything about playing bad? Where did I say you couldn't play any champ you want? Where did I talk about feeding? Where does it say that all that is allowed in normals?

It don't, you sheep created your own rules. If you take that shitty attitude of yours into my games you will be reported for it, bottom line. Ignorance and Apathy, the two virtues of todays generation.

archerno12 votes

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Where did I say anything about playing bad? Where did I say you couldn't play any champ you want? Where did I talk about feeding? Where does it say that all that is allowed in normals?

It don't, you sheep created your own rules. If you take that shitty attitude of yours into my games you will be reported for it, bottom line. Ignorance and Apathy, the two virtues of todays generation.

Well its not "sheep created his own rules". if its not against rules, then its allowed. Normal mode is casual mode as it doesnt award LP or any rewards. Thats why its casual. This isnt about rules, this is about mentality. If you go by rules, there is no difference between normal and ranked. And why should i care about your worthless report anyway?

Dragfin1 votes

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Well its not "sheep created his own rules". if its not against rules, then its allowed. Normal mode is casual mode as it doesnt award LP or any rewards. Thats why its casual. This isnt about rules, this is about mentality. If you go by rules, there is no difference between normal and ranked. And why should i care about your worthless report anyway?

That attitude right there is the type of player that should be banned permanently from playing with others. Thank for proving my point. Have a nice day Mr. Entitled. You will never see why you are so wrong.

DænariusKhølerin1 votes

Wait, are you being serious or...?

Archerno said: "Well normal exists so people could play casually, try new thing..."

You replied: "According to the sheep who created their own set of rules. Nowhere in RIOT's agreement or rules does it say this."

So basically at first you said normals isn't for people to play casually and try new things, then you said:

Where did I say anything about playing bad? Where did I say you couldn't play any champ you want? Where did I talk about feeding?

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Dragfin1 votes

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Wait, are you being serious or...?

Archerno said: "Well normal exists so people could play casually, try new thing..."

You replied: "According to the sheep who created their own set of rules. Nowhere in RIOT's agreement or rules does it say this."

So basically at first you said normals isn't for people to play casually and try new things, then you said:

Where did I say anything about playing bad? Where did I say you couldn't play any champ you want? Where did I talk about feeding?

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Illiteracy is a crime. I feel bad for you.

DænariusKhølerin1 votes

So what are you saying when you say "according to the sheep who created their own set of rules" in reply to Archerno's comment about it being for casual play? What do you think casual play is?

Dragfin1 votes

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So what are you saying when you say "according to the sheep who created their own set of rules" in reply to Archerno's comment about it being for casual play? What do you think casual play is?

Selfish players who only care about themselves. You should not bring a casual attitude into a game with strangers because they may not think the same way you do. This is what casuals do and think that they are right. In other words, "sheep".

Sheep created these rules because they could give a rats ass about who they are playing with and think that they are 100% right when in fact they are 100% wrong. If you found people who wanted to play the sheep way then you would not have any problems from people who wish to play the game the way RIOT intended the game be played.

In other words sheep are not the entitled GOD's they think they are and will be dealt with as such. Deal with it and the flak you will be receiving or buy a clue and find people who think like a sheep and play however the hell you want.

DænariusKhølerin1 votes

I understand what you're saying, and I never play any mode casually in League, but what would be the difference between Normals and Ranked in this case?

Dragfin1 votes

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I understand what you're saying, and I never play any mode casually in League, but what would be the difference between Normals and Ranked in this case?

Nothing, same applies for every mode that involves strangers.

Rito Staff3 votes

Play 10 rankeds in a row then go play a normal. How do you feel? You feel "It's just a normal", you're relaxed and kind of play it like an Aram.

Dragfin2 votes

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Play 10 rankeds in a row then go play a normal. How do you feel? You feel "It's just a normal", you're relaxed and kind of play it like an Aram.

Maybe you do and other sheep like you but I don't and I don't imagine the OP does either.

Rito Staff2 votes

"sheep" what a morron. I'm mentioning that naturally, and by contrast, after playing lots of rankeds, which are tense and tryhard, when you hop in normals you feel, it's not a choice, you feel like "it's just a normal"

I don't fear making plays. I end up playing better in normals because there's not as much pressure.

karruck1 votes

I think he means people that have an I don't care look at norms....not a person that actually tries to do well,kind of like me hating to see 1st time champ quotes as soon as we spawn...ya ok here comes the it's only norms argument......ya it means nothing to some and a lot to others,my opinion do AI bot matches until you get the feel of the mechanics and a build path instead of asking how to build....that is annoying

Dragfin1 votes

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"sheep" what a morron. I'm mentioning that naturally, and by contrast, after playing lots of rankeds, which are tense and tryhard, when you hop in normals you feel, it's not a choice, you feel like "it's just a normal"

I don't fear making plays. I end up playing better in normals because there's not as much pressure.

Implied by your post. In fact you used those exact words, "It's just a normal". Sorry if that's not the case.

Ralanr2 votes

If they feed intentionally, report them for feeding intentionally.

Normals aren't an excuse to not report.

Dirty Bastard5 votes

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If they feed intentionally, report them for feeding intentionally.

Normals aren't an excuse to not report.

But normal are also not an excuse to criticize your teammates for doing poorly. They could be trying new champs, new items etc, or the enemy team is just out playing them.

It is those people who normally start griping at the unlucky player and calling them out as feeder or troll that get the "Hey, its just a normal man, relax".

I have seen it several times, and tbh the guy calling someone else feeder is just being salty. And needs to stop taking everything too seriously.

Ralanr2 votes

Yeah, it's a judgement call. Usually it's not to hard to tell between intentionally feeding and new to champion.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

  • if you want to play serious, play ranked.

  • if you want to test out new or unconventional champions and builds but still as a serious preparation for ranked games, play normal draft.

  • if you want to play an unbalanced mess and fuck around with weird off meta builds and picks and not be serious whatsoever about your game, play blind pick.

there is already a que for every type of game. dont expect people to take the game serious when youre quing up for normal blinds just because you do. this is the que to play ap gangplank, stack 6 archangels on ryze, jungle ashe or full ad darius.

if youre the type of player who doesnt want to play ranked, but still somewhat seriously, then i suggest you swap over to normal draft mode.

Grithok2 votes

Idk. I like to relax in normals and I use that phrase ALL THE TIME. But I don't feed. I play random stuff that I just can't do in ranked. Like nami jungle. And before you say "wow ur the problem" here's the match. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2245602672/210959139?tab=overview

Got first blooded but still did well, and we won.

My point is, the problem isn't taking normals lightly. The problem is trolling.

DREADN0UGHT2 votes

Im plat. But when I play norms I just chill and try things out and play like silver. Nothing wrong with that.

Slythion2 votes

It is wrong if you aren't trying or if you're even throwing/feeding or generally don't care about your team/the outcome of the match. Players who go "it's just normals" generally aren't even really playing the game and it completely ruins the experience for the rest of the team, who are actually trying to play.

For players like me that only play normals, we hate those who think they can just do whatever they want at the cost of our enjoyment. It's just a selfish and toxic attitude to have for any game

DREADN0UGHT2 votes

So if I hop into a norm to practice my yasuo in top lane, and do badly because I'm testing things out, like builds, figuring out a match up or a strategy, and not really making such a big deal out of losing lane, that makes me wrong?

Slythion2 votes

Nope, because at least you're trying. Everyone has to practice a champ at some point. It's the players that go AP Renekton support and run it down mid for the first 10 minutes saying "calm down it's just a norm" that we're talking about.

I've had players go 0/7 in lane from an experimental AD orianna build or some crap saying "it's just a norms" before. All I ask is, if you're going to do something like that where you severely limit the team's chances of winning and capability of having fun in the match, have some respect and bring friends who are willing to try new (and stupid stuff). Don't subject a bunch of randoms (or even one) to sit through 20mins of crap because "it's just a norm".

I could care less if you go 0/5 first time yasuo as long as you kept trying. But if you go 0/75 adc soraka in my game and respond to criticism with "it's just a norms" then that's when it's just disrespectful and stupid

deadlychuck2 votes

The only time i have ever heard that phrase was in response to someone who is getting disgruntled about someone playing poorly.

I've never heard it used to justify their poor scores, rather only to tell the person who has extremely high sodium levels, that their emotional investment into a normals game is completely unjustified.

Rainbow Smarf2 votes

your post describe the nature of existence of normal game mode thanks thats exactly in this state of mind when i hit a normal just chilling and having fun without any other thing in mind than doing my stuff i dunno it like you are saying normal are supose to be ranked now wth ?

xTropicalPenguin2 votes

i mean i get the odd thresh adc or sona jg, but it's normals so i don't really care, it's not impossible to carry them. I don't lose anything but the game, don't lose lp or something meaningful.

karruck1 votes

myself and others i play with play normal so we can improve our team dynamic to progress into ranked play.People with this attitude really ruin our games a lot....sorry to say it but it happens.Now is it right.....no does it irritate me....yup to no end.However I do realize if you play in a high stress atmosphere with something to gain or lose stepping down to play in a casual atmosphere is quite refreshing.All I can say that if you come to norms please be nice enough to give it your best.It is hard enough to improve all of the mechanics with a team without dealing with an I do not care attitude. Thanks in advance .....see ya on the rift

BananaJannana1 votes

there will always be different reasons why people play normals. The general view is that ranked is for serious play and normals is for casual gaming or practice. Whether or not you agree with these standards is up to you. You're free to play as you like. Similarly, other players are free to play as they like.

What you're talking about are people who aren't playing casually or for fun. They're playing to make other people's lives harder because they don't have much else to do, they need to feel some kind of power over others to validate themselves. It's true that "it's just a normal," but there are limits. Feeding intentionally is not ok, neither is stealing camps from your jungler, etc.

warpenguin5551 votes

its always a bad thing to say. i tell people that when they keep fucking up in normals to try to keep morale

Dankstin1 votes

Normals is where you are allowed to do your best or muddle through a bad game. Try taking it as a learning experience. Carry the game. Cs with more precision. Gank with better timing. Ward more often in the most important spots. Work on you. Normals is your chance to work on you without losing LP for doing poorly in the process. Almost any high elo streamer can tell you, even through the feeders, trolls and afks, once you stop caring about the WIN, you'll end up just winning more because the pressure isn't there. Stop trying to win so much and try to just improve yourself.

Eshir1 votes

Its just a normal game dude relax*[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]*

Prison AnaI1 votes

But normals are to get away from the serious play of ranked and try new things and practice so you can possibly play it in ranked. How would you feel if someone first timed someone like azir in ranked because they couldnt do it in normals out of fear for being harrassed. Keep trolling out of normals and everything will be fine

Nice Fellow1 votes

Hey it sucks but make the best of your situation

Revali1 votes

you cant just force people to have a different mentality man.

100T iLL1 votes

i encountered them before nor did i care

its just a normal bro

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