Ranked LP Problem.

Fractured Bum ·May 11, 2015·1 votes·631 views

I don't know this personally (because I'm not ranked), but I watch my boyfriend play ranked all the time. And I personally find how gaining and losing LP works ridiculous. An average win is between 12 and 17 LP while a loss is anywhere between 16 and 24 LP. It's more harder for him to level up in ranked and so easy to just get demoted. Sometimes in the matter of 2 or 3 games after losing his series he will be demoted back to a lower rank. I find that ridiculous. He loses more LP than he gains. How is that fair, Riot? Seriously? I keep telling him to complain to you guys but he keeps saying it would be useless because you guys never listen anyways. He's probably right, because I've complained to Riot a lot and nothing has ever changed, but I want to voice our opinion on how unfair this is. Especially when him losing a game isn't even his fault. I don't care if this sounds "whiny" or whatever. If that's how the ranking system works, then why bother play? Seems more of a hassle than it is to have fun.

6 Comments

Tacofan10May 11, 20151 votes

Have you considered that your boyfriend is ranked too highly?

GroundRuleDoubleMay 11, 20151 votes

It's because his MMR is lower than the rank he's in. The system thinks he should be lower. The more he wins, the higher his MMR will get, and the better those wins/losses will look.

If your MMR is higher than your rank, you'll lose more and win less. If your MMR is lower than your rank, you'll lose less and win more.

As long as he keeps winning, his MMR will go up, and he'll notice that he'll start gaining more and losing less.

This system is there so someone can't have a lucky 8 game winning streak, end up a tier higher, and just sustain. The system wants you to earn the rankings you get.

It's fair. Might not be convenient, but it's fair.

Android CowboyMay 11, 20151 votes

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It's because his MMR is lower than the rank he's in. The system thinks he should be lower. The more he wins, the higher his MMR will get, and the better those wins/losses will look.

If your MMR is higher than your rank, you'll lose more and win less. If your MMR is lower than your rank, you'll lose less and win more.

As long as he keeps winning, his MMR will go up, and he'll notice that he'll start gaining more and losing less.

This system is there so someone can't have a lucky 8 game winning streak, end up a tier higher, and just sustain. The system wants you to earn the rankings you get.

It's fair. Might not be convenient, but it's fair.

that is crap. by your own explanation if he goes to a higher tier and doesn't belong he would never win enough to stay there. players are hobbled by mmr, so they can't escape once it goes too low, they may play awesomely, but the cranks and retards they get grouped with at that shit mmr will hold them back. you fucking guys keep saying it's a team game, but "git gud' and carry. contradiction much? the fact is it's a team game, but they don't give a shit if you play well or not once your mmr hits a certain level, there's no hope. you need wins to elevate your mmr, but you can't win once you are mired in the shit-heap-black hole of bronze.

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GroundRuleDoubleMay 11, 20151 votes

If you get to a higher tier after 10 games, your MMR is still probably low. If you get there after 100 games, your MMR will be higher.

I'm in Bronze V right now. I've been in Bronze IV twice and dropped back because my MMR is SUPER low. Now, my MMR is higher so the next time I get to Bronze IV, I'm sure I'll stay. I was gaining 9 LP per win and losing 25. Now I'm gaining around 19 and losing around 19-21. The game is made to take time to climb. You can't expect to do it quickly.

Fractured Bum May 11, 20151 votes

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that is crap. by your own explanation if he goes to a higher tier and doesn't belong he would never win enough to stay there. players are hobbled by mmr, so they can't escape once it goes too low, they may play awesomely, but the cranks and retards they get grouped with at that shit mmr will hold them back. you fucking guys keep saying it's a team game, but "git gud' and carry. contradiction much? the fact is it's a team game, but they don't give a shit if you play well or not once your mmr hits a certain level, there's no hope. you need wins to elevate your mmr, but you can't win once you are mired in the shit-heap-black hole of bronze.

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This is exactly what I mean, it's unfair that people lose a game that's not their fault and lose all that LP in the process. I've even played games where I was fed at first but one lane did so bad I lost the game. The LP seems to be centered around how EVERYONE does. So if you win and you did great but one person sucked, you get less. It's not always the champions fault why they can't win. What bothers me is that some people don't seem to understand that and blame that they just can't play against the enemy team when that's not the case at all. One person can ruin a game for anyone easily. Especially when so many champions (ie; Akali, Fizz, etc) are unstoppable once they get the tiniest bit fed. Yet if they win and have for example 17/1/13 KDA they only get 13 LP but if they lose with a KDA of 3/4/9 they lose 20 LP.