How to nerf Runic/ZzRot Udyr without nerfing other balanced builds?

BladyRunner·2/23/2016, 1:58:45 AM·1 votes·753 views

How to nerf Runic/ZzRot Udyr without nerfing other balanced builds?

Cinderhulk/Tiger top/Tiger Warrior are definitely not OP, even devourer udyr is not as strong as other devourer champions (Shyvana, Yi).

Only real problem is Runic with other items synergy.

Riot decided (current PBE) nerf should be: -20 shield -20 phoenix proc dmg at max rank.

Lets do the math how to change his ratios to only touch Runic Udyr.

W and R AP ratios are currently pretty similiar = ~0.5. Runic Echo gives 60 AP and its only AP item in the build. Lowering his W and R proc AP ratios to 0.15 gives us:

Current Runic Udyr | Runic with 0.15 ratios | Runic with PBE changes W: 250 | 229 | 230 R: 227 | 209 | 207

I am aware it kills pure AP Udyr. Which doesn't exist anyway. PS. I hope this is right place for such things, if not, please redirect me somewhere else :-)

2 Comments

Dominick Destine2/23/2016, 2:03:36 AM1 votes

Udyr has been nearly 60% win rate for quite some time now ... coupled with a fairly high play rate.

Want to run it by us again about how Udyr doesn't need the nerfs he is getting? He absolutely DOES need nerfs and Riot has wisely chosen to deliver.... my faith in Meddler and his crew has increased from this decision... rather than caving to the current FotM Udyr players, they actually nerfed an overpowered character in a way that was both fair and reasonable.

Your suggestion is to nerf him without nerfing him, that's absolute garbage. Hitting a character that has such statistical dominance is what should be done, it is what will be done. Riot did a magnificent job.

gg'd

EndlessSorcerer2/23/2016, 2:05:06 AM1 votes

Eh, I don't really have an issue with it considering his Devourer build was around 55% win rate when Runic Echoes was introduced.

Hopefully, the love taps will remove him from FotM status so I can actually play him again. I preferred Devourer Udyr over Runic Echoes anyways.