The new Shyvana is a dead weight (6.23)

That's what you get when someone at Riot get a "gimmick boner" for something.

"She's half dragon! Lets directly tie her Passive to the dragons on the rift!"

She's Shen 2.0.

i told you the passive was awful but you didnt listen xd

now suffer filthy dragongirl weebs

i haven't played her much recently so im a little rusty with her, but have put in a few games with her since the patch.

i think the new passive is balls, in theory it sound great, but what i have found is that it just focuses the enemy team on taking/protecting dragon. it encourages you to try for early dragons but at the same time you dont have the omph to solo them and everyone is on even higher alert about them.

usually your team isnt all that focused on helping you get an early dragon in average play, however the whole enemy team is watching trying to kill you if you do.

imho tying her power to a team oriented objective is something that harms lower level play and is going to lead to her being overpowered in high level play if it is left as is or beefed up to help regular play.

she needs that armour and mag resist to stay alive as she has no other real survivability ability now that enemies arent discouraged from chasing through the fire field.

i think the AR/MR need to be re attached to the R level. if you want to tie some sort of dragon mechanic, have it function like garens targets, the last person to kill a dragon is dealt bonus true damage or something.

i can live with the nerf to W in dragon form, the large AoE is a decent trade off and encourages you to stay in the thick, but it does hurt her already limited survivabilty, now that there isnt really a negative to trying to keep chasing her so give her back the passive ar/mr on her ult.

if not passive at least while she is in dragon form.

I mean, that's not the problems shyvana has, i've discussed the topic thoroughly several times, you can go check that. But i appreciate that a wider audience feels those changes and how they crippled shyvana below being playable right now, maybe if i'm not the only one that rants about her we can have the orginal passive shipped in or even better the changes completely reverted.

I really wanted to see her get the passive they were testing on the PBE a few weeks ago.

Dragonborn Dragons defeated by Shyvana or her team grant her extra boons:

Infernal Drake: Converts (5 / 7.5 / 10)% of damage dealt into true damage. Mountain Drake: Takes (10 / 15 / 20)% less damage from Monsters and Towers Cloud Drake: Grants (5 / 10 / 15)% Slow Resistance Ocean Drake: Grants (5 / 10 / 15)% Cooldown Reduction

The only thing shyv is good at is clearing and that is so sad when put into words ;_;

And that is going bloodrazor, which makes her sqishy and still deals less damage than others going it, just looking at function and jax does the same thing except he clears slower early but becomes a monster duelist with innate durability from ulti and E. It doesn't feel like shyvana does anything better or fill any particular role well enough to make it worth picking her.

Then we have the new passive relying on her team not losing early so that they can get at least 3 dragons so that she doesn't wind up weaker than she was pre rework. I feel that if you want a splitpusher you can pick something like yi, trynda or even lee sin. If you want a tank then nunu, zac and sejuani are good. Shyv doesn't beat any of these fellows in the lategame, she can't kill the tanks who will simply jump over walls and run away or perma slow her. Yi and trynda will murder her 1v1 and both put pressure on the enemy team just by existing.

I really hope she gets a rework to fill some kinda role besides farming because unless she get's ahead by miles she won't do anything in the current game. .c

They ruined my one trick at 6.9 shes already dead to me along with every other attackspeed jungler

Shyvana has to get Dragons for MR and Armor. Graves presses E. WP Rito

Wait you are telling me riot screwed the pouched on a champ who did not need to be messed with.

Want my personal take?

Well, after seeing the new champ,I can safey say,they nerfed shyvana so this champ would seem more broken then they already are. Hell explain where shyvana's passive magic and armor went.

Give her the first activatable "passive" through hotkey, new abilities in each form that are distinct from each other. Of course, her dragon abilities being more on the defensive diving back line side, while her human form allows her to peel for carries without having to buy a mallet. Could remove her e and make better use of her strength, based off appearance, to stun the enemy for "X" amount of seconds. From there, the % hp damage (if it wants to be kept) can be moved to her q instead. Burnout would remain same to allow her to catch up to target to stun them. Unsure on human form of an ultimate, though.

Early stats from this patch have her winrate up from 47% to 54%. Just saying.

all i see now are shyvana jungles, im sick of it