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Why is Draven allowed to have bonus damage on his Auto Attacks equal to 85% of his AD without crits?

MrTheFlame··3 votes·582 views

Like, seriously, think about it. Sure, he's kind of hard to play and has to press a single key before doing that, but he can't be allowed to have bonus damage on his AAs AND ALSO CRIT. Let's use numbers as a second argument. Most ADCs have around minimum 300 AD at the end of the game (even without baron/dragon buffs), and have an Infinity Edge somewhere in their build. With 300 AD, critical hitting and an infinity edge, a SINGLE auto attack will deal damage equal to: 300 (Base AD)

  • 255 (85% of 300, the bonus damage on his Q)
  • 750 (250% of 300, critical hitting), with a total of 1255 physical damage (except if you have more ad than this) Sure, you can build armor to reduce the ENORMOUS damage it causes, but if you're a squishier champion (an assassin or an adc), you can't do SHIT against that, bc your build path will rarely let you gain more than 100 armor.

What are your thoughts about this?

7 Comments

aaronautumn5 votes

Keep in mind that outside of his speed boost on w, he has no mobility and the only utility he has is his e. Otherwise he is all damage. Compare this to other carries that have better range or utility. What he lacks in those, he makes up for in raw damage. He used to be very ridiculously strong with his old passive but they've since changed that and I think he's very balanced.

Taarki4 votes

Your math is off, The crit doesn't ADD 250% it multiplies it to 250%, so its actually 300 + 255 + 450. Which comes out to 955. Also, Draven tends to build more AD and less AS so he doesn't attack as much. So compared to someone like Vayne who hits almost as much and has a massive damage bonus every 3rd consecutive hit. I think Draven is at a fine spot.

Lugg3 votes

Draven is pure damage due to the fact that he has no utility and that he is predictable if he wants to catch his axes. That makes him pretty easy to CC.

Abyssphere3 votes

Why is everything defending Draven getting downvoted in this thread?

Draven has extaordinarily high damage but having better damage than other ADCs doesn't make you better than other ADCs. Draven is an ADC I will never be able to play and that is because his positioning is insanely difficult to manage and insanely easy to punish. It's very difficult to purchase enough armor to tank him (Thornmail is great though because all his damage is autos and you tank his damage better than he tanks 30% of his own damage) but that doesn't mean there's no counterplay there.

Draven gets the highest lategame DPS (possibly aside from Vayne, I guess it depends on target) because his DPS is infinitely less reliable than that of any other ADC. He needs some reward for being so unreliable - otherwise why would you ever pick him?

Maximum Zilean1 votes

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Why is everything defending Draven getting downvoted in this thread?

Butthurt TC is my guess.

Primaquarius2 votes

He's League of Legends most glorious BAMFmaster with those glorious Qs of his :3

femmé1 votes

draven is allowed his damage because he sacrifices a lot of his defenses for more dmg. His W is a very short speed boost just enough time to catch the next axe and reset but try doing that while you're running away from volibear lol plus his stand aside is his only defense other than offense and is more of an engage than a disengage. Draven also only has Ten minutes of game time to make shit happen or he'll just be...another adc unless he gets a few kills in a teamfight. Of course if he doesn't get kills in these ten minutes that doesn't mean draven is useless but I can tell you this: 4/0 draven can make really good use of his kit and passive allowing him to snowball and win the game (1 shotting annies Draven ) but an 0/3/11 draven isn't going to do much with his extra damage. If he loses stacks early and then dies again his chance to shine is over and is pretty useless where as an adc like ashe is still providing her cc while being behind. Point is: Draven needs to snowball to make use of his spinning axes allowing you to quickly do a 1, 2 knockout with his axes. If he doesn't snowball or gets behind...pretty much his kit isn't good if he can't 2 shot people with it, hence his passive.

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