Who should get rework and who another one?

HideSide·12/8/2019, 6:40:50 PM·2 votes·2,997 views

#Who do you think guys should have rework and why and who should have another one because his current one feels halfassed?

15 Comments

Shahamut12/9/2019, 6:01:39 PM2 votes

Skarner. I have made so many threads about this over the last 4+ years it hurts. Tldr- spires area terrible gimmick that locks Skarners stats into the jungle in a way that is more feast or famine than ever before while offering nothing in "premiere objective control" which was their stated goal on implementation.

The spires are team reliant and grant both vision and gold to enemy team as well as yours. No personal agency. Is currently reliant on 40-45% cdr unfun stun combo (E>>R>>stun>>E>>stun) to be a relevant threat.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/cEWbm3hn-new-preseason-new-skarner-long-post

Something in this vein would be great.

Linna Excel12/8/2019, 10:04:28 PM2 votes

Mundo, shyv, and udyr probably all need reworks once riot figures out what they want the jungle to be.

Soraka, Irelia, and Akali are champs I'd like to see reworked again.

Ryze the champion needs to have his core concept thrown in a garbage, set on fire, tossed into the pacific ocean, and then he should be reworked from scratch.

Pizza the Man12/8/2019, 9:55:00 PM1 votes

mundo needs a rework the most imo. he is hideous and not fun to play at all.

sion needs another rework cuz he aint the sion i loved. hes a tank/hard cc bot

Daddy Ants12/9/2019, 5:08:10 PM1 votes

Mundo Amumu Jax Tryndamere Sona Nocturne Shyvana

xxdankspamxx12/11/2019, 2:57:43 AM1 votes

Tryndamere

An aged champion design and an ult that should have no place in a game like lol.

-He is one of the only few champions that have built-in RNG (something that should not be in a competitive game, period) at the start of the game. If you challenge him at level 1, there will be two outcomes

  1. He doesn't crit and spins away, gets outtraded and will start the game rougher than usual
  2. He bashes you 5 times, crits on 3 hits and you essentially auto lose the lane.

You didn't win or lose because you necessarily played better/worse than him (assuming both players are equal skilled), you won/lost because of RNG which dictated if whether he crits you every auto.

-His mobility is too strong. E has decent damage and the cooldown is decreased everytime you crit. Which means at 100% crit chance and 40% CDR item 3006 item 3508 item 3078 item 3031 item 3074 item 3033 his E cooldown is non-existent. Meaning that he will run you down no matter what.

-W can lower AD by 80 and reduce movement speed by 60% at max rank. You cannot run because he's more mobile, and you cannot fight because he does more flat AD (crit) damage than every champion in the game.

-Resourceless healing

-Every game with him on your team will devolve into a 4v5 turtlefest while Tryndamere splits both lanes the entire game. You caught him off guard? HeHe XD R+E runs away. If played well, there are no champions that can effectively 1v1 him. Once he's bored, he'll rush in 1v5 and kill two carries before either running off or dying.

-His ult has no counterplay. You can counter him using hard CC, but there's no counterplay to him not dying. Plus, item 3140 exists. There's a huge difference between champions that you struggle to kill (DrMundo) vs champions that you** cannot kill **(for 5 seconds). Once he's used his R, 99% of the time he's too committed and will run you down regardless of your kiting ability.

In Tryndamere case it's not about win rate, it's about him being extremely unhealthy for the game.

Beerstein12/8/2019, 10:53:18 PM1 votes

Rework Kayle back to her original...the first one.

HideSide12/8/2019, 10:52:08 PM1 votes

#For all upcoming comments: Can you guys put WHY you think so, in detailed way if possible? Please, I would like to see things from other people perspective, thanks :-)