Not enough bans for the amount of OP champs in the game.

Senna ADC or SUP·Oct 23, 2015·24 votes·1,879 views

Fact. Try to argue.

34 Comments

Archon XOct 23, 20153 votes

if they are so op, play them

Zair UmbrasOct 23, 20153 votes

What..? Fiora, Tahm, Morde, and Veigar. That's... pretty much it. I mean, if you've got an incompetent top laner or you plan on going for a more pick based champion, then you could add Darius to that, but... that's pretty much it, really.

ReQnosisOct 23, 20152 votes

Been watching a lot of Morde matches lately, ranging from gold to masters.

Honestly, Morde doesn't really do well at all, unless he's got a jungler practically setting up camp in his lane and guaranteeing him Dragon.

SoloQ doesn't have the team coordination that the LCS/Worlds has. Thus he simply isn't anywhere near as powerful as you'd think he was.

IE: Here's a replay of Teemo performing as well, if not better than his Morde in Masters http://na.op.gg/match/observer/id=1986481576

Note: That replay will expire in a week or so.

tl;dr Morde is a wasted ban, this will be even more obvious when he gets nerfed next patch as well.

NarasimhaOct 23, 20153 votes

Agreed, we need 130 bans. Then people will be satisfied.

TurquoiseYoshiOct 24, 20151 votes

You left item 3136 up OP PLZ MORE BANZ

Slamurai JackOct 23, 20153 votes

It's funny that people still think bans are for OP champs. Of course you'll think there aren't enough bans if you think they're just OP repellent.

A Miss FortuneOct 23, 20153 votes

We have to ban champions that counter our team comp which is fine, but ridiculous when we have to ban champions that counter ANY comp.

Slamurai JackOct 23, 20151 votes

I want to know which champions counter any comp.

Remlap1223Oct 24, 20152 votes

LeeSin Fiora

Slamurai JackOct 24, 20152 votes

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Counter to Lee Sin: Don't feed early. Counter to Fiora: Any teamfight comp that doesn't suck ass. Her teamfighting is even worse than Master Yi's and Tryndameres.

Remlap1223Oct 24, 20151 votes

Counter to Lee Sin: Don't feed early.

Yeah, I'll get right on that with the jungler that has the strongest level 1 in the game, alongside a kit that rewards counterjungling.

Counter to Fiora: Any teamfight comp that doesn't suck ass. Her teamfighting is even worse than Master Yi's and Tryndameres.

Yes, because an AOE heal that scales with AD and a dodge that can bounce back CC is horrible teamfighting.

HaIlMonitorOct 23, 20152 votes

Tahm, Vayne, Garen is all you need. L2P Scrublord XXX

CppLOct 23, 20158 votes

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Tahm, Vayne, Garen is all you need. L2P Scrublord XXX

garen?? lol i think you need L2P

HaIlMonitorOct 23, 20152 votes

Garen is a pub stomper that is why I Ban him. He seems to go even or win lane and out scales most other champions so I would rather not waste time dealing with a 4k hp Garen that heals as if he has homeguards out of combat.

HayRossOct 23, 20151 votes

He's strong if:

-The enemy team communicates with each other like 5 lobotomized sponges trying to calculate the value of a derivative -They have a poke composition -Darius was banned but you still want to play him, so you have to settle with his counterpart

Other than that, he's about as strong as he was before the rework

HaIlMonitorOct 23, 20154 votes

-The enemy team communicates with each other like 5 lobotomized sponges trying to calculate the value of a derivative

Have you ever played soloque?

HayRossOct 23, 20151 votes

Yes, which is why Garen is (In my opinion) one of the oligarchs of Soloqueue, along with Darius and some other people I can't think of at the moment. Solo queue players communicate worse than that

DryditchOct 23, 20152 votes

Since certain champs just don't get played as much anymore (Kayle/Yi) without being nerfed, it's really possible to start banning out more than just the OP picks.

Mordekaiser and Fiora are the only two I consider must-bans. Everyone's still afraid of Darius (who gets shit on by a decent top laner) and Garen (who really isn't that good anymore), so the enemy team wastes their bans on those.

Personally, I like to throw in a Diana ban or a Fizz ban every now and then, since they've got some serious bullshit to their kits (not saying they're broken, just a bit too far on the strong side for my taste).

Mister MackeyOct 23, 20151 votes

Ban 30 champions and you'll still find too many OP champions

CrettOct 23, 20151 votes

Here it comes... Here comes

The List

Akali Ahri Blitzcrank Corki Fiora Fizz Irelia Kalista Katarina Kennen Kindred KogMaw Leblanc LeeSin Lux MasterYi Nidalee Nunu Pantheon Quinn Rengar Riven Shaco Swain TahmKench Thresh Tryndamere Vayne Vladimir Yasuo Yorick Zed

EDIT: Disclaimer most of these champs aren't OP, just really annoying

PiVoRxOct 23, 20152 votes

akali, yi, quinn, corki, nunu, panth, yorrick and swain wtf

CrossetteOct 23, 20152 votes

Akali is an assassin, Yi just builds devourer in low ELO and tears through in a 1v5, Quinn's passive is stupid powerful when it likes to target the right person, Corki has a lot of poke (not broken lol), AP Nunu is stupid, and top Nunu shuts down the enemy laner. Panth is annoying, Yorick is actually a huge bully to melees and SWAIN IS A BASTARD.

Mael broOct 23, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Here it comes... Here comes

The List

Most of these guys are pubstompers and don't even have above 50% win rate.

HaIlMonitorOct 23, 20152 votes

Yeah I find it sad that some champions are hated so much like rengar when his win rate is sub 50% most of the time. Most of these champions though are really good at doing one thing.... Notice it???? Killing ADC's. I feel like players want ADC's to be broken op at all times and ANYTHING that takes away their spotlight isnt allowed lol.

THE RlVER KlNGOct 23, 20151 votes

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha so true :( I'm crying over how true this is. Currently, it's really just make sure Darius, Veigar, and Morde are banned and then select from 20 or so insanely strong champs that require the coordination to counter that doesn't exist in Yolo Queue; Riven, Zed, LB, Kat, Blitz, Akali, Annie, Donger, Rengar, Yi, Fiora.......not saying they're all OP but impossible to reliably find counterplay of in Solo Queue. Riot, you're always talking about creating a a balanced game with lots of viable champs when in reality it's like 5 legitimately broken champions, a lot of super strong low skill ones, some mediocre ones you can get by on, and then ones so bad they're unplayable against most matchups. I love the game but I hate the state balance-wise it is in now.

legionnaire99Oct 23, 20151 votes

every champ in the game has counterplay

killd0zerOct 23, 20151 votes

if everyones op no ones op

CHOPSTICKUHHOct 23, 20151 votes

Bumping this forever

AbyssphereOct 23, 20151 votes

My argument: I don't think there are that many OP champions.

Combat that with an argument that isn't just a variant of "I rudely disagree".

LadyRenlyOct 23, 20151 votes

I just want to ban Heimerdinger, Blitzcrank, Thresh and Leona and Vayne unless I'm playing her. But due to the recent situation, none of those ever get banned, so I'm stick banning those guys and getting flamed for not being a meta sheep and banned Darius, Garen and Fiora

TheDeviceOct 23, 20151 votes

Easiest thing to argue

If there are so many op champs, chances are you'll be playing one of them.

Done.

LlaniteOct 24, 20151 votes

Fact #1: People are matched together by their ELO. Hypothesis #1: OP Champs require less skill for the same results.

=> (at any given ELO) the players who play OP champs must have less skills. => (at any given ELO) the players who play OP champs who must have less skills must deliver less result without said OP Champs.

Conclusion: By banning OP champs, you create unfair matches by having people play at lower efficiency. By that logic, Riot the fun police would attempt to stop you by not letting you ban more champs!

Your turn.

TeCoolMageOct 24, 20151 votes

Just ban the few champions that are generally weak but counter strong champions and pick the strong champions. Problem solved

BârdOct 25, 20151 votes

There are certainly a lot of OP champions.

The thing is, each of them do have champions they suffer against.

Garen too fast? Learn Heimerdinger and buy item 3116 . Karma can also work here

Rengar oneshotting you? Zilean is your man, along with Lulu Kindred Kayle

Mordekaiser killing all of you with a fucking dragon? Chogath Nunu Kalista NEVER LET HIM GET IT IN THE FIRST PLACE

Vayne shredding through all of the everything? Grab Ryze , since his CC cannot be dodged and %HP true damage does not include his shield and healing, then upgrade your fucking red trinket.