ARAM 15 min dodge timers to keep game integrity, 5 min for challenger dodgeing a bad match in ranked

PureEvilClutch·Sep 7, 2019·3 votes·1,664 views

Someone plz explain how keeping ARAM integrity is more important than ranked ladder games. And if i go in game and afk i get no dodge timer. How is for fun gamemode more important then challenger games? I only posting here cuz they said dev and balance team listens here. Why punish casual players and not tryharding players? Is ranked realy less important than ARAM like RIOT says it is? And most ppl who dodge ARAM have multiple accounts anyway so they dont care at all about the timer. It only punishes the normal casual player with one account.

29 Comments

Titanium70Sep 7, 20193 votes

Smart dodging is a big part in ranked since launch... And the timer on it doesn't matter at all!

Knowing when a game is lost in Champ-Select is a skill in its own. And you use that skill to increase your winrate.

ARAM is for fun - having to Q 3 times since some monkey is dodging ain't fun. So monkeys need fist to face!

PureEvilClutchSep 7, 20192 votes

Well that is my point, how can ARAM be more important than ranked games? Make it all 15 min then or all 5 min. Look at tweet its to keep the integrity of a fun gamemode. By riot games words ARAM has more integrity then ranked. Im just asking WHY? And you are from EUW too and ARAM timers are low so i dont care if i have to q 4 times, that is still only 5 min or less of my life.

Titanium70Sep 7, 20192 votes

You dont get the point.

Increasing the dodge time in ranked would change absolutely nothing since the people dodge to gain MMR. Waiting longer doesnt not make them not dodge! It makes them open Steam to play something else!

Increasing the dodge Timer in ARAM works since the pople dodge because they're unsatisfied with their champ and want a new one (if they have to wait.. they don't get a new one, they wait!)

PureEvilClutchSep 7, 20193 votes

So you are saying that if you leave ranked games you get mmr? Are you ok buddy? Or did you mean you lose mmr? Im just saying that that means that a challenger in ranked games can dodge with no punishment cuz he knows that jax will smash him in top, while in ARAM you need to wait for 15 min if you dont like playing with a troll or a toxic person?

Maybe im wrong but ranked games shuld be more strict than casual games. Othervise its not casual anymore. I see you dont agree with that.

Ok then if what you are saying is true, make one hour dodge timer for ranked. Its for fun while your rank should be how good you are, now ppl can climb while not being actualy the rank they are by selecting games to win. That makes ranked games more abusable than casual ARAM games. That makes 0 sense to me.

Who was so upset about ARAM games dodge timers that they made ARAM have more integrity then ranked games? Is re-q-ing in ARAM realy so bad if someone dodges? More then in ranked games?

So if soneone wats to have fun in ARAM they should be punished while ranked is ok to abuse? How is that fun?

Titanium70Sep 7, 20192 votes

That's your problem... you view dodges as abuse instead of tools.

A tool that SHOULD be used in ranked. But is not necessary in Fun-Modes!

(NONONE needs to maximize their winrate in ARAM, and especially not by fixing your pick intention which, being random, is the whole point of this mode in the first place! Why on earth do you think there is no Ranked-Aram?!? You'd spent like a day in Q until finally both team got God-Comps!!)

You need a way in ranked to avoid Q-Terrorists, to avoid failed trading arragments and to fix misunderstandings! It can also be used to avoid horrible teamcomps. Judging om them is also a skill in League that is rewarded.

And obviously... you dont gain MMR by dodging, you gain by not playing the freelose and win the next!

PureEvilClutchSep 7, 20193 votes

I know that since you are abusing this dogeing you will defend it and i cant convince you that fun modes should not punish you more then competitive ranked modes.

And noone needs to maximise your rank by leaving games you know you cant win. That makes the whole point of drafts and ranks pointless. It makes ppl like you higher rank than you realy are and i dont agree with that. If you need to dodge your ranked games you are bad and should lose that game and riot should not hold your hand while you are gaming the system by getting higher rank then you realy are.

You are plat now and you would be lower if you wouldnt abuse dodgeing, that is my point. Just becouse riot cant fix the game for years now that dosent mean you should be allowed to abuse the system while ppl are more punished for trying to have fun.

Then add just for me that if i dodge in ARAM while on my team i have a player blcked i get no to low timer and i would be happy.

But when im watching imaqtpie he says fuck this yassuo mid and dodges cuz he knows he will lose its ok? Not in my book on a ranked high ladder games.

Why having a draft at all if you then can leave when you made a bad one? Again im not arruing that ranked needs more timers or something i dont understand why a FUN gamemode is stricter then RANKED games.

So to you it makes sense that your rank can be a lie but god forbid ppl having fun in ARAM.

Titanium70Sep 7, 20192 votes

What the hell... did I just read... [zombie-brand-facepalm]

... guess I'll dodge this one...

PureEvilClutchSep 7, 20191 votes

Lol lost argument, runs away. Like your ranked games. But unlike your ranked games you didnt dodge in time. I know you will never agree that what you are doing is wrong. Maybe its better for me to talk to a person who isnt hardstuck for years now. Makes you biased af. You need all the dodges you can get buddy.

Titanium70Sep 7, 20194 votes

You're delusional about the game, make wrong assumptions that're so of the mark it's not even worth discussing. There is simply no point in wasting any more time on that. I thought this was a worthwhile discussion when in fact it's nothing but a blockhead standing on his postion crying out of any useable arguments and throwing around accusations with no point what so ever.

This useless poll should have been a warning... x'D

PureEvilClutchSep 7, 20191 votes

I mean you already said you dont understand what im saying why prove it more?

We both know you would be lower rank if you would not dodge and its a fact you are hardstuck. I can see your games and stats, they are public. And you never adressed any of my points but ok.

I mean you are the one who said that if you dodge you get MMR not me. I only corrected you when you were talking bs. All you said is everything is ok. And i dont agree. Keep midmaxing your ranked games.

You still think being in a longer q for ARAM cuz of dodgers, is the end of the world but in ranked games its a must have tool to max your rank. Why be allowed to boost your rank at all?

But at least we agree that you should not post here anymore [zombie-brand-mindblown]

PureEvilClutchSep 7, 20191 votes

And poll was for fun you no humor person, but i guess it was too subtle for you [zombie-brand-facepalm]

PureEvilClutchSep 7, 20192 votes

So your are for adding MMR lose to ranked game dodgeing then. And you dont lose MMR you lose lp and MMR stays the same so you get a mismatch. You are making my point for me RIOT allows ppl to abuse dodgeing and instead of fixing the problem ARAM gets more strict then ranked games. Nice meme.

preternaturalSep 7, 20192 votes

YOU OPTED INTO RANDOM PICKS STOP DODGING IF YOU DONT GET LUXANNA hate this community man, wtf is this complaint about.

PureEvilClutchSep 7, 20192 votes

I dont dodge to get champs i can play them all im lvl 364, i dodge ppl on my team who i have blocked and troll in games or are toxic.

preternaturalSep 7, 20191 votes

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I dont dodge to get champs i can play them all im lvl 364, i dodge ppl on my team who i have blocked and troll in games or are toxic.

in aram?

PureEvilClutchSep 7, 20191 votes

What is confusing you? Yes ppl are assholes in all gamemodes. Just relax i see you have way too much time going through this forum and getting upset.

preternaturalSep 7, 20192 votes

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What is confusing you? Yes ppl are assholes in all gamemodes. Just relax i see you have way too much time going through this forum and getting upset.

you are coming across the same people in aram and you recognise them while in champ select. ok

PureEvilClutchSep 7, 20191 votes

Yes if you have ppl blocked it says in chat. And yes if you go 10 ARAMS in a row you get half of the same ppl, especialy early in morning and late at night. Are you sure you didnt buy your lvl 300+ account?

LordGeovanniSep 8, 20192 votes

all you have to do is wait 2 minutes and distort your que times from the other ones who went right back into it. If anything ranked should be brought up to Arams dodge timer not down. Dodging isnt supposed to be a mechic period. its only quitting a game and the game forces a reset because you in the eyes of the game had a problem with your computer if this reality didnt exist there would be no dodges to speak of as you would be in low priority just for trying to dodge and banned if you do it alot.

PureEvilClutchSep 8, 20191 votes

Still you can q with same assholes eventualy and you dont even know if they did go back right away to another game.

Yes i agree both should have same timers. To me it just dosent make sense that ranked gameplay is less punishable for dodgeing than fun game mode like ARAM.

preternaturalSep 7, 20192 votes

i remember when nida was the bees knees for aram before her rework and people would dodge if you woudln't swap nida with them. pathetic. actual BLIGHT on the community, ya'll can get fucked by dodge timers it'll be a boon to the game. then you can start talking about a ranked aram queue where dodge penalty is an hour.

G0blinSlay3rSep 7, 20192 votes

i will bathe in the blood of dodgers

PureEvilClutchSep 7, 20192 votes

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i will bathe in the blood of dodgers

Vladimir top main i can smell it :P

LordGeovanniSep 8, 20192 votes

Both should have long as fuck dodge timers. dodging isnt a game mechanic and shouldnt be treated as one.

Darkdemon653Sep 8, 20191 votes

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ARAM 15 min dodge timers to keep game integrity

It has nothing to do with integrity. It has to with reducing the amount of people who dodge ARAM, as it's more likely to occur there than elsewhere.

PureEvilClutchSep 8, 20191 votes

Tell that to Riot that says its for integrity, and that is integrity also for all random game mode. I think you dont realy know what integrity means :S Like they say otherwise you would dodge untill you get a champ you like. Not a problem in my book for a fun mode but Riot dosent agree.