Changes that should happen in the mid lane

EatHotChips··1 votes·2,115 views

Diana FizzAkali I am a mid main, and I enjoy playing this game. I feel like Dianna and/or fizz need some nerfs. Fizz just have too much burst damage and his tidal trickster is pretty annoying. He has too much mobility and yet does a pretty insane amount of burst damage. I feel like the nerfs to akali were stupid. she was a good mid laner but wasn't even dominating like Dianna was. speaking of Dianna, she has way too much stuff in her kit. she has a shield that also does damage. a range attack that can poke the shit out of you and a dash where if she is close to you, it's a guarantee ult. it's just her ult are game changers because if you have the upper hand, she can just ult and do a ton of damage while completely cripple you in the mid lane. Dianna and fizz just have too much damage in their kit and they all have that one ability that promotes damage while making them agile. like zed and talon( I don't main them btw), they have agility, a range ability, a ability to engage. the reason why they are solid picks but not crazy picks is because they agility ability does not do damage, and what ever helps them to stay in lane( like zed's w or talon's E) does not do damage, these points also applies to alkali. I get why they nerf her ult's target but other than that, it was unreasonable, Dianna's shield is what helps her to sustain in lane because she is squishy but why does it have to do damage. and I think her ult can do the same damage but doesn't have to parts to it where it disable you or that it stays the same with just a little damage reduction. Also I think fizz's tidal trickster should do less damage, or maybe his tidal trickster shouldn't avoid turret aggro or at least shouldn't reset it. that's my rant. I hope people who main these champs don't get offended, it's just I think they should at least be somewhat on our level. I don't think all of these request are going to be met but these are just some of my ideas.

9 Comments

MikeJ122O2 votes

I easily beat these champs by playing Urgot mid. I think they are fine champs at the moment.

EatHotChips1 votes

Oh ok, thx for the feedback, I just find them kinda annoying because I main champs that can't sustain in lane because of their poke

EatHotChips1 votes

Plz tell me If you agree or not. I just want to see if this is a popular opinion or I am just being a pussy

billa23141 votes

I don't think your being a pussy, just state of the game, it is designed around 5 people working as a team. This rarely happens in solo queue and that is the frustration to the game. You get counter picked and no help from team mates because of draft position and your done. Of course your team will flame you, tell you how bad you are, but heaven forbid the Jg who wants to yell "you suck mid" will gank. Had a game last night against a Yasuo, Playing Neeko (I had first pick :(). I was countered, played safe, farmed at tower if he got close, holding my own in cs, had him below half health at level 2 and he was on my side of tower bushes, jg walks by, when could have come in behind him and both of us gank (even had him stunned) did nothing to gank all game. But I sucked because I didin't roam with him to Dragon (she didn't ping going there, I pinged missing) and had my wave pushed into me. That was my fault. Was my fault also for the two deaths I had standing at second tower because Gragus came and sat in our jg to deny my waves, and was trying not to get to far behind. Not complaining just pointing out if team doesn't play with you and work with you, sometimes, nothing you can do if they focus you and your already countered.

EatHotChips1 votes

I just have a hard time against these champs you know and also ironically I had a similar scenario last night where the jungle surf was flaming while he never really ganked the lanes that was behind(mine because I was against Dianna). I can relate lol

Troll Slaiyer1 votes

no ur right. especially diana.

she was op before the rework, just need lvl6. she didnt have the aoe nuke R at least.

what was the reworks' goal? to make her unfair at all stages? mission accomplished.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

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no ur right. especially diana.

she was op before the rework, just need lvl6. she didnt have the aoe nuke R at least.

what was the reworks' goal? to make her unfair at all stages? mission accomplished.

To update her in accord with the current standards of league x)

billa23141 votes

Diana is strong at moment, but she an ap counter to assassins as well. She snowballs she is a problem, but there are many factors in that (teamwork, trading, overextending, vsion control). Fizz is as annoying as it gets, but he has counters. Now if you take a champ into him because of draft and you get counter picked and both players are equal or just a little less skill the Fizz will win because Fizz (lol). Teamwork has to be used to counter these champs. The akali nerfs were absolutely needed. When the professionals are saying she is broke, I tend to agree. They are the top players in the world and if they say her kit is broke, I will believe them. They also are on voice always, work as a team always, and play the game at it's intended level of complexity so when I hear them all say Akali was broke and needed nerfed hard to argue with it.

The problem I do agree with you about is there is way to much mobility for a select number of champs and it is killing the game when you do not have the same. People like the flashy plays and the I can hit you, but you can't catch me, and if you do I will burst you before you can use a skill champs, so yeah, makes it rough.

psuedo meta1 votes

Diana is strong because of the jungle buffs. Fizz is hard to balance and hard to counterplay him(the only way to beat him is outplay his e or punish him when he used e) which isnt easy to do. And akali is currently at her most balanced state. I hope she doesnt get anymore changes dircetly/indirectly. Because if akali were to be indirectly changed and/or compensated changed it could lead to her being op again.

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