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Ahri R CDR Nerf. its not all bad

Kitsunes Lust·10/4/2018, 3:44:22 AM·1 votes·1,340 views

i'm just gonna say it now, yes, i am a ahri main, and i am NOT complaining about this 20 second ahri R nerf, but to personally explain in my own opinion, why this nerf is not as bad as other ahri players are claiming it to be as, so i'm ready for down votes and hating, cuz idrc...

anyhow, yes, her ultimate is going from 110/95/80 to 130/105/80, so a 20/10/0 nerf to her CD, but that's it. And this "nerf" is completely counter-able. i personally don't see anything wrong with this. its fine by me. you just gotta play more like a fox. play more clever, play more wise, play more safe, and use your ult only when you need it. 20 seconds isnt' terrible.

  • when you get lvl 6, you should already have close to a lost chapter by then, which is already 10% CDR, which is 117 second CD R.
  • if you have transcendence, that's another 10% CDR at 10 minutes
  • if you have ult hunter thats 5% at 0 stacks

add it all up 10+10+5=25% CDR at 10 minutes with ultimate hunter at 0 stacks and lost chapter. so 25% of 130(2 minutes 9 seconds) is 32.5 seconds shaved off of your ultimate, bringing its CDR at rank 1 now down to 97.5 (1 minute 37 seconds) CD, lower than the current base cdr.

and late game comes, and say you have all 5 stacks of ultimate hunter and you have 40% CDR (20% from Ludens Echo 10% from Transcendence and 10% from any other CDR item you wanna build).

40% CDR + 15% CDR from ult hunter= 55% CDR of 80 second R at rank 3, shaving 44 seconds of your ultimate, bringing it down to a crazy 36 seconds. if my math is right anyways.

stop whining guys and instead work around it and adapt to it. i ain't no diamond or plat player. i ain't no pro, but i know how to adapt, instead of freaking out over a nerf. everyone gets nerfed here and there. you just gotta adapt to our environment....

that is all.... [sg-ahri-2]

8 Comments

2Charmnot2Charm10/4/2018, 4:27:57 AM1 votes

So what you're saying is this nerf does nothing and she will get another one after this one goes live, sounds good to me [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

HP Crookshanks10/4/2018, 3:43:39 PM1 votes

130 seconds cd is too long for only 3 dashes when other champions have only 10~20 seconds cd on their dashes. Not to mention Ahri relies on her ult too much to do something.

LeftyRaydy10/4/2018, 4:07:36 PM1 votes

I thought this was so much better than reverting the charm buff. I mean Ahri's Pre-6 is so much stronger with the E buff.

ValyrianBlade10/4/2018, 4:20:54 PM1 votes

Pretty sure ultimate Hunter is multiplicative and not additive.

So you get 15% CDR on the reduced cd, not the bass. I.e. a 100 second cooldown with 40% CDR plus 15% ultimate Hunter gets 60 seconds less 15%, or 51 seconds. NOT 55% CDR on 100 seconds for 45 second cooldown as you're implying.

Although I agree with the point that the nerf isn't terrible. It DOES hurt though. It gives all the assassins that do well against Ahri Windows to kill her when their ult is back up and hers is still down (assuming she uses hers to escape their first one). She already had the same cooldown as them, so now hers is 20sec longer. E.g. Ahri can Dodge fizz fish with ult, but he'll have another ready 20sec before she can escape again (meanwhile he can troll pole every charm)..