The Real Reason Autofill Exists.

Marked Cards··2 votes·935 views

I have been reading about this topic it seems for half of forever. The player base hates autofill. The player base does not want autofill. IT does not need to exist in lower ELOS. Pro Players, Streamers, and normal Master players do not want it to exist. I have seen real smart people demonstrate with math how the league of legends would exist without the autofill system. They make it easy to understand and use analogys so the rest of us stupid people can understand. The autofill system really only save minutes per que depending mostly on the avg time it takes to play a game. IT doesnt save or shave off hours upon hours of que time like RIOT would like you to believe. So if it doesnt save loads of time and the player base largely does not want this to exist then why does it continue to exist. It can come down to only 2 reasons.

  1. Riot does not care about what its players want and does not care about its opionions.

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  2. Riot somehow makes more money because the autofill system exists.

These are the only 2 reasons left. I would like to belive that RIOT does care about its players. They must somehow make more money by more games being played faster. They sell more skins or more boosts or something that creates more money the faster games are played. It is the only answer. I have learned over the years that if you cant figure out why something is the way it is ......90% of the time it comes down to ...more money/ greed. ITs that simple.

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Lord Zeta 13132 votes

LIES, ITS ALL LIES

Aptest2 votes

They must somehow make more money by more games being played faster.

Oh gee this is a whole new world opened up. That a company who's business is running a game, would make more money when the matches get launched in a timely fashion? What a novel realization you have there sir, bravo.

IT doesnt save or shave off hours upon hours of que time like RIOT would like you to believe.

Actually it does. Without autofill, the wait time for a match will be equal to the fatigue time of the difference in proportion of players between the most and least popular roles. And while I do not know exactly how much time this is, since that time depends on people quitting, we know for certain that without autofill, people will wait long enough, to rage quit the queue.

The autofill system really only save minutes per que depending mostly on the avg time it takes to play a game

I used to think like this, that autofill saves 5 minutes or queue or so, and that was that. But than someone smart made me run the math again, and I realized autofill doesn't save up any specific amount of time: it saves exactly the amount of time that it will take people to rage-quit the queue.

IT doesnt save or shave off hours upon hours of que time like RIOT would like you to believe.

And the reason it does not, is that you are not willing to wait hours on hours. Had you been willing to wait, it would have saved exactly the amount of time that you would have been willing to wait.

I have seen real smart people demonstrate with math how the league of legends would exist without the autofill system.

Show me.

ChargeItDownMid1 votes

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Aptest1 votes

About your graph:

if you look at bronze, silver, gold and plat, you'd see more time with autofill than without. As this is not a reasonable outcome, this graph is suspect. Either autofill is not isolated apart from other changes, or autofill is not the changes mentioned in this graph.

As you can see this graph tells an opposite story to your graph. So your graph is suspect: https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/LOL_CMS_192_Article_07_b09fmfebhlmai3zym0zz.jpg

Your graph is may 2016. What happened in may 2016?

https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/LOL_CMS_192_Article_02_yvs3rz5ix75ynlwhwe94.jpg

(a) Position priority – A change to the algorithm so you’d wait a bit longer but get your primary more often.

which is consistent with your graph, showing an increase in wait time overall.

So, we conclude that you are not showing a graph that is relevant to the point you are trying to make.

Regardless you are missing the point. Without auto-fill, people are quitting the queue. That is what the math is saying. If auto fill is only saving 2 minutes, than these 2 minutes are what it takes for people to get bored and go elsewhere. "I will gladly wait 5 min to get my role" is flat out a non-truth.

Marked Cards1 votes

Look i dont care how you want to defend the autofill system. You are in the minority if you want to play with auto filled players. I dont care how smart you are or what your logic is. The majority of the players DO NOT want it. I dont care how you poll it or how you take a census. The players dont want it but RIOT wont get rid of it. SO i am saying it is 100 pecent amoney issue in some way shape or form. Hands down. ITs about the money. So go spit logic somewhere else.

Aptest1 votes

It is not that I want to play with autofilled players. It is that I understand the necessity of this system. The core functionality of the matchmaker - being able to provide people with games - depends on autofill.

Why is a 2 minutes improvement in overall queue times important to riot? why do they have a development team devoted to cause an apparently minuscule improvement in wait times? Won't most players wait the extra minute? on face value it does not make sense.

So the answer must be, that actually people don't wait the extra minute. they rage quit and they wait to play another day. Because they have less patience than a hamster on LCD and they want their game now or they go play fortnite.

And when they do that, that is harmful to riot. And yes they care about their money. They are greedy fucks who want people playing their precious game, not stuck in queue and quitting because the queue is too long, because that is what makes them the money.

Anyway, Since you care so little, I will close here. Logic and thought are beautiful things and they are wasted on people who are not interested in them.

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