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Perissh·3/26/2015, 7:59:10 AM·6 votes·926 views

For years the "support" characters have been broken in one way or another. Either you have them ok as a support but completely overpowered as a solo laner (soraka, lulu, etc) or you have their abilities scaling so poorly that it doesn't even feel good playing them as a support because they don't seem to scale at all. Does anyone else feel like perhaps they should be scaling off of a different stat than AP? Maybe they could scale their abilities off of something else? GP5 seems the obvious choice but that doesn't seem quite right either. What if a new stat were added to existing support items for their abilities to scale off of instead? It could work pretty much the same way as AP, but the items that it were available on could be balanced specifically for the support position. Maybe some abilities still scale off of AP for them, such as their damage output spells, but say heals scaled off of the new stat instead, so that those that still want to play lulu in the top lane could do so, but their shields aren't going to soak up as much as a support lulus would, and their ult will not heal for as much either. I know the chances of this happening are slim to none. This type of thing would take soooo much work to basically rebalance the entire game and item system, but I think it's a kind of cool idea and wanted to see if the community thought so also.

5 Comments

Namnoms3/26/2015, 8:38:18 AM1 votes

Theyyy kind of already did with item 3504 but it really isn't used much...

AMYS GRAVE3/26/2015, 9:10:03 AM1 votes

I like the idea of Gp5 scaling, if you buy a gp5 item you are forgoing combat stats (with the exception of avarice blade) but that could be fairly balanced.

Lwnt3/26/2015, 4:26:46 PM1 votes

I have been fighting for this for so long in season 4 but they wont do it because no one cares about support. It doesn't make sense to scale the utility with Ability power as it is expensive stat and you need a lot of it to feel satisfying. Its so annoying when ppl say all you need is 100 to 200 ap because no you need more to make your skill feel stronger (In a utility wise not damage wise). This will all feel more satisfying if they use a different stat that you find on support items. I dont know if you know this another MOBA called infinite crisis does this method. Their support class all have utility scaling with a stat called "will" which is the same thing as mana for league of legend. While their damage part of their skills will scale off with power damage which is the same thing as ability power. I felt that it was so cool because if you wanted to play support you can build a lot of support items (with auras and actives) that usually have a lot of will. If you decide to play this champion in solo lane than u build more power damage and little bit of will. I wish riot will do this concept. This will make it so much easier to balance solo lane lulu vs support lulu or any other support. Or else they are going to keep nerfing support to balance their solo lane power (who can scale with ability power amazingly). So watch out sona players because she is doing really good in solo lane. Lastly lets be honest here the ability power utility scaling only benefited solo laner so much more compare to support players most LCS player dont even build ability power (keep in mind I am talking about ap utility scaling support). Terrible riot very terrible.

RussoRed4/1/2015, 12:41:21 PM1 votes

let the supports have there ap there is nothing wrong with it pluss if u just ad that factor every support player would half to change there builds compleatly just to try and scale