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Taric is a terrible champion

Tyranichu··3 votes·2,190 views

He is terrible. Don't even try to justify him being good. He is a decent support at best but in the grand scheme of things he is one of the worst champs in the game. There are only a handful of times you can justify picking him. Maybe against an all AD team. But even then he gets outclassed by Alistair, Leona, or any other tank support. Very weak kit in my opinion. His stun is super low range and the duration is very short. It does not give ADC enough time to follow up. His heal is very small and by mid to late game it is completely useless as it only heals about 100-200 HP. His W is probably one of the only abilities that is good as it gives your team a small boost in armor but it is very minuscule unless you complete stack armor which leaves you very squishy to any Mage. His ult is pretty nice it is a small buff to you whole team but even against a very strong fed team this skill is worthless.

So to sum it up. He is a very one dimensional support that you should only really ever pick against a heavy AD team. He can't be played in any other role effectively as he has like 0 damage and harass. Very slow based move speed and attack speed. Makes him in my opinion one of the worst least playable champs in the game. Glad he is getting rework as he needs a buff.

41 Comments

luckmallory4 votes

Somebody doesn't appreciate OP Gems

Tyranichu1 votes

There is no upside to choosing him against any other support. Seriously only against heavy AD teams and even then Alistair is far better. He is the worst champion and worst support.

luckmallory3 votes

Weak? Yeah

Worst Champion? no

There is no worst champion because every champion fits a niche

Try going Graves Taric bot lane

Level 6 graves with fully stacked passive standing next to taric has anywhere from 70-80 armor. The other ADC can not trade with you

Also at level 6 since Taric has a point and click stun he can stun the ADC and then Graves just dashes forward and unleashes his combo

I honestly dread this lane more than most as it is almost impossible to win against

j j1 votes

taric is the worst champion in the league right now hands down.

luckmallory2 votes

You are completely wrong .

He isn't in the bottom ten for pick rate

He has sat above a 50 percent win rate for over a month

In diamond his win rate peaked at 56 percent in mid August

So you are wrong

j j1 votes

The statistics behind his win rate have many different lurking variables. I can tell from my personal experience and having been playing since the beginning of time. Also, having played a god awful amount of taric recently I notice he lacks in every particular area when it comes to laning and team fighting. He does not really excel at anything. He's literally a walking tank that does nothing for a good majority of the game. As somebody who loves to play taric and would love to see him in a good spot I totally admit his short comings. Awful at trading, Awful at peeling, awful at fighting and terrible at sustaining unless you buy certain items early, which is not usually practical given the meta and since you need to rush other items first.

Before you look at statistics play the champion, understand their strong points and weak points. Try to not form a bias in the process. People who bust out those random statistics literally understand little about the said champion but also what the lurking variables are. Taric does 1 good thing right he just walks around in circles giving auras to people. Other than that his initial ult burst is garbage his heal can arguably be okay early if you have the mana for it (unlikely). His other skills are meh. They've received nerfs over time and or been changed.

Taric was once good but with the introductions to mobile adcs came in he completely lost his identity. Taric is a mix of a sustain, burst, and aura bot none of which he does quite well either. Due to the short radius of his auras and inability to properly use his ult and shatter due to adcs like kalista, caitlyn, vayne, lucian, kogmaw, graves. You would have much more success playing a support who actually did damage or had more utility in their kit. Which is every single support. Imo, you'd do better running an assassin in your lane over taric in all honesty. He does literally nothing. Absolutely trash. With supports like thresh, braum there is literally nothing taric can do in a vast majority of lanes. He is shit tier. Accept it embrace it come to terms with it child.

Tyranichu1 votes

You nailed it bud. You might aswell have wrote this post for me because I have been trying to say the same thing. As I said before I have never felt more useless then when playing taric. He needs a buff of some sort to make her a more rewarding champ to play.

luckmallory1 votes

I never said he wasn't weak, but he isn't the worst champion in the game. what you just described could be applied to other champions. What about mundo? he is just a walking tank that does nothing else

j j1 votes

Mundo is actually still quite good and fully capable of doing damage, split pushing and doing many others things. Taric just walks around with an aura. But if that is the only comparison you can make I can tell you're not even remotely prepared to justify why taric is not the worst champion in the league. I typically find that when people make arguments they bring up random things to justify their reasoning. How about you give me situations and strong points that actually makes taric NOT the worst champion in the game just as much as I have given you reasons WHY he is the worst. Please son.

luckmallory1 votes

On my main i have a 74 percent win rate with Taric with 42 games played on him. My friend mains support in plat 2 and Taric and Janna are his mains. Thats actual proof you can be successful with him and he is good, not just speculation, now show me some facts that he is the worst instead of saying, i played him for a long time and hes bad

j j1 votes

Provide me your reasoning why he isn't bad or the worst. What does he do that many champions couldn't? What does taric bring that most supports can't? Why would you ever pick taric over another support? How does taric fare in lane against certain adcs or other supports? What is his playstyle. Like, I'm making this incredibly easy for you but you're just throwing out statistics that mean little. Identify and construct a general idea of what you're trying to portray so people can get an understanding and see your side. You're terrible at arguing sir. And you've not convinced me a lick that taric is weak. You've further got me thinking he's the worst in the league and confirming my beliefs.

[* i provided reasons * ][* not statistics that don't actually explain a champions short comings or their strengths ] [ you've not done any of it ] [ GG GET SLAPPED *]

luckmallory1 votes
  1. What does he do that many champions couldn't?

Only support in the entire game with a point and click stun that cannot miss One of two supports that can heal and also give resistances One of 2 supports that can buff both your AD and AP without items probably the second tankiest support

  1. What does Taric bring that most supports can't

See above

  1. why would you pick Taric over another support

Best support against a heavy AD team Reduces a ton of poke in lane with extra armor given Has a large armor shred that allows your ADC to win trades( for example the lane that i mentioned earlier, graves will have 60-80 armor when going for a trade, Taric reduces their armor by 20 so you have a 60 armor ADC trading with an ADC with around 25-30 armor)

  1. How does Taric fare in lane against other ADC's

Weak against adc's with multiple escapes such as Tristana, ezreal, or vayne Strong against ADC's who rely on one ability to escape or dont have an ecape such as twitch, jinx, and ashe Weak against poke supports with sustain Nami, Sona, Soraka Strong against Engage supports such as naut, leona or thresh as a point and click stun makes it extremely hard to follow up on your supports engage

Meanwhile your argument

I played him and ive played for a while so hes the worst champion in the game.

This argument isn't even true because in the last 5 seasons you have played Taric a total of 12 times in ranked, so the only argument you came up with isn't even true. how about you come up with a legit argument as to why he is the worst in the game

j j1 votes

Aura radius is limited and the shatter ability itself is nearly impossible to use effectively just like his ultimate due to mobility. It's only effectively utilized when in combinations with his stun that cannot miss but also note that the stun is not long and the projectile speed is slow. Thus supports and adcs can generally react to it such as thresh, braum, soraka etc. list goes on. But not only that after dazzle is on CD he has no peel. (aside from exhaust if you count that but exhaust should only be used in an all in manner and it does not gaurantee your adc isn't exhausted as well.

It's true he has a heal ability however his costs are quite high and in order to fully utilize the concept of being a sustain support he would have to sacrifice far too much mana to even consider that skill useful or relevant. Having mana regen runes, masteries and an early regen item made is managable but still difficult in combination of playstyles (mana regen masteries now gone). Taric has an identity crisis in sustaining while also playing offensively since he is supposably a champion that is designed to encourage a kill lane composition or effectively allow his jungler to gank; however, due to the nature of his mana costs and inability to do anything without burning flash he is effectively useless.

One thing I will give to taric is he can shatter multiple targets; however due to nearly adc being either mobile or capable of self peeling with jumps or traps taric hardly every gets to utilize this function. In team fights he could possibly use it although it would not be on an ideal target. While peeling for his adc he could effectively shatter a target he's peeling. That's +1 for target.. unlikely to hit multiple people although it can...

Taric does buff your ad/ap given you're within his range. Depending on how your team is constructed taric is either initiation team fights with his terrible dazzle or peeling for your adc. Thus not many people are actually utilizing his aura and his ultimate initial damage is unlikely to hit multiple targets. The damage is not quite high either.

Taric is tanky this is true it is probably one of his stronger characteristics aside from being a ward and aura bot. Though by the time he accumulates a strong sense of tankyness he has already outlived a usefulness period of the entire game. (being a ward bot essentially for bot lane is his claim to fame after that he is absolutely burdening his team with his uselessness). Most tanks though can actually initiate or peel this leaves tarics tank identity in an odd place. Effectively you're becomming tanky, so you can become a ward and aura bot throughout a fight and contribute very little. It makes no sense.

Picking taric against a heavy AD team is smart such that running malphite is just as smart. Though with items like the black cleaver and last whisper tarics armor aura is almost useless although not entirely useless. He provides a small bonus to his team when within range but aside from that I see no reason to bring taric in a heavy AD composition. It'd more than likely be better to bring a support with more utility like tresh, leona, and or braum as they are just as tanky and do a much better job peeling for their team, which is essential when vsing heavy AD comps with champions like Zed, Talon being around.

The actual amount of poke in lane isn't reduces much since the aura is based off his armor. The scale is not as effective early as it is opposed to later. it helps but I would argue having more mana for sustain would be much more desired than the small amount of armor given. I would disagree and say jinx is relatively difficult for taric to face due to her range and self peel potential in combination with her supports ability to peel and lack of tarics own peel when it comes to fighting. If you initiate with dazzle you have nothing to peel with. You just screwed your adc. For this reason taric is extremely bad when confronted with many adcs and a vast majority of supports. I would say kalista, vayne, kogmaw, caitlyn, jinx, corki, lucian, and ezrael can really be a problem for taric.

I would say miss fortune and varus are easier for him to face but still difficult due to their ability to slow taric. I would agree twitch is easy to face for taric. Although in combination with twitch and a support and or champion capable of doing damage you will be unable to keep your adc alive due to your inability to peel and sustain the raw damage essentially your adc is walking gold. Taric can quickly stun and combat a disengage making his offensive identity in an even more so awkward position. He would rarely ever get a chance to utilize his ultimate and shatter with that playstyle; however, I can see situations where it could save his adcs life. He'd then there after be useless during his dazzles CD where champions like leona or naut have other skills to use or peels to either engage or defend with.

tl;dr taric is terrible good effort with your post I applaud that you actually took my advice and wrote out something rather than posting idiotic statistics.

I mostly normal and or ranked with him on other accounts however I still play him on this account in normals. My normal elo is relatively high since I have good wins over my losses. I have a good bit of games with him over several years worth of playing. nearly 5-6 years under my belt...

Tyranichu2 votes

Mundo does great damage. Huge health sustain, speed buff, cleaver does % health. He is a massive walking tank that can shred back lines and extremely hard to kill. He can just pop his ult and run away.

j j1 votes

Not only that but he can chase and effectively peel. Mundo can literally do anything in the game, which is why balancing him is tough and why sometimes he appears weak. Mundo is by far not the weakest though. He has many strong points his early game becomming more and more crappy though.

luckmallory1 votes

That must be why he has the worst win rate in league huh?

Edit: He has the second lowest and has been i nthe bottom 5 for 2 and a half months. Taric hasnt been in the bottom 10 once all season

j j1 votes

Lurking variables every game is different; however, I'm still waiting to hear why you think taric is not the worst champion in the game you have provided nothing but worthless statistics that prove nothing. Saying that mundo is the worst due to his w/r is quite possibility the biggest noob trap. Mundo does nearly everything exceptionally well. he by no means is weak. But if he's weak argue why he's the worst due to his W/r or are you just full of statistics with nothing to back it up? Lol useless database cruncher plz.

luckmallory1 votes

You prove things by providing facts and statistics. did you not pass pre-algebra? Variables do exist but not in the entirety of a 2 and a half month period. If someone is consistently losing for 2 and a half months that means they are weak. You playing the champion and saying they are weak doesn't prove that

j j1 votes

You should probably never debate. You aren't convincing anybody. You seriously are embarrassing yourself.

luckmallory1 votes

<brings up completely logical argument about people being able to consistently win with him and provided statistics to prove it

<says he played him before so hes the worst champion in the game

<says i can't debate

<kek

j j1 votes

scroll up slapped again :)

luckmallory1 votes

You didn't do anything lol you posted your opinions about Taric, I posted mine. That doesn't mean either of us are right.

You say I dont know how to debate but the number one rule of debate is don't dick ride your own arguments and let others decide who's argument is more valuable.

Anyways, i will keep continuing to win with taric and climbing. Continue to think he is the worst champ in league, doesn't change my opinion at all

j j1 votes

I didn't say you couldn't win with taric. I just stated and provided insight as to why he is the worst champion in the game. It's possible to win with many unconventional laners and or other weird builds. So, anything is certainly possible. But it isn't going to change the fact that tarics kit makes zero sense and he lacks an identity as a champion. He's all over the place.

Tyranichu1 votes

Situational does not make him good. Every champ is situational but still overall Taric is terrible.

luckmallory1 votes

He has a 51 percent win rate over the past month so obviously people are doing just fine winning with him.

Sasogwa2 votes

THESE ACCUSATIONS ARE OUTRAGEOUSTaric

PT Waluigi1 votes

alistair. XD I want that as a skin now

Tyranichu1 votes

He is the only champion I ever played and felt completely useless with. I want to feel useful. Albeit I'm not a very good player but with other champions I feel like I am some what contributing to the team. Even when I'm playing awful.

Tyranichu1 votes

I get some people upset at this post because they like Taric and his champ design but even you have to admit he could use a buff.

Syndrarella1 votes

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Tyranichu1 votes

{quoted}

His heal is very small and by mid to late game it is completely useless as it only heals about 100-200 HP.

Syndra Bullshit. ACTIVE: Taric heals the target ally or himself. If he targets an ally, he heals himself for the same amount, and if he targets himself, the heal is increased by 40%. 「 HEAL: 60 / 100 / 140 / 180 / 220 (+ 30% AP) (+ 5% bonus health) 」

Oh 220 my bad. 20 more then what I said. -_- His heal sucks. You can't save anyone with it bro.

luckmallory1 votes

plus 5 percent bonus health mate. If he builds tank thats about plus 150. so 370. Thats plenty of healing

Beoridas1 votes

Hes among the best healer in the game (after soraka) which costs him only mana instead of health. He gives armor and SHREDs enemy armor. That means that he doesnt have to be situational. there is always an AD source on the enemy team and in your team. He has a very reliable stun and a baron buff as a ult.

Hes pretty darn good.

Terff1 votes

Taric is a great lane bully, and one of the best healers in the game rivaled only by Soraka, he might not be as good of a lategame support but he is great early game and his heal remains relevant throughout the game.

GuiltyGecko1 votes

Taric should be played as a counter pick to comps with at least 3 ad champions. If they pick a 4th champion that's AP, get a locket to cover that.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

If you think Taric is worthless, you don't understand the game very well.

The armor he gives to teammates is no small potatoes, and he's no slouch even without it. I played Taric in a game recently and was able to solo the enemy Vayne. I mean, it probably wasn't Sneaky's smurf, but still. Leona and Alistar can't do that. Period.

Don't shit talk champs just because you don't like them. He's a great part of the game, and he is incredibly useful in the right hands. Those downvotes are earned.

I Azor Ahai I1 votes

Taric OK I understand why you feel this way, it may be due to your approach on how taric is played.

1st off. Mana is important with the Gem Knight. Stock up on Mana pots and use Clarity (omg this guy uses clarity)..yes !! exhaust + clarity. "With Clarity"

2nd, Use all defensive runes and masteries.. it only helps your ADC perform and take risks when he's also a tanky B#stard. Your auras are no joke.

3rd, wait for enemies to engage first. stun the enemy adc and rush in like a psychopath... with someone like Cait on your side.. they'll get poked down to hell.

4th, your ult is the ace in the hole. It will boost your adc's ad/ap. (It like they have a BF sword) Tarics Ult + any adc ult = nighty night for anyone with 50% hp.

Dont touch my Taric. he's truly outrageous.

Ventira1 votes

{quoted}

Taric OK I understand why you feel this way, it may be due to your approach on how taric is played.

1st off. Mana is important with the Gem Knight. Stock up on Mana pots and use Clarity (omg this guy uses clarity)..yes !! exhaust + clarity. "With Clarity"

2nd, Use all defensive runes and masteries.. it only helps your ADC perform and take risks when he's also a tanky B#stard. Your auras are no joke.

3rd, wait for enemies to engage first. stun the enemy adc and rush in like a psychopath... with someone like Cait on your side.. they'll get poked down to hell.

4th, your ult is the ace in the hole. It will boost your adc's ad/ap. (It like they have a BF sword) Tarics Ult + any adc ult = nighty night for anyone with 50% hp.

Dont touch my Taric. he's truly outrageous.

*Except Kalista's ult, as it does no damage.

Shangazi1 votes

Still garbage in 2018. DO, NOT, BUY.

Azadethe1 votes

He's one of the most broken champs in the game because the likelihood of killing his team in the 2.5 secs before his ult invulns is extremely unlikely to happen. And his team basically has to burn all an opponent's skills to prevent an Ace if this happens mid team fight, because they usually have no escape, unlike Kindred's which is stationary and thus has counterplay.

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