League Points

Bìg Daddy Z·Mar 31, 2016·2 votes·368 views

Someone please tell me the reason why you lose almost 2.5x LP than when you win a game i played three games in B4 and lost all that lp in 1 los. If someone could explain this to me that would be wonderful.

7 Comments

EndlessSorcererMar 31, 20162 votes

Ranked (and Normal) queues track an MMR value independent of your actual rank. This value is used to measure your approximate skill and to match you with similarly skilled opponents.

MMR is used as a factor when calculating LP gains and losses.

If your MMR is higher than the average for your current division, your LP gains are increased and your losses will be decreased.
If your MMR is lower than the average of your current division, your LP losses will be increased and your LP gains will be decreased.

The system believes that your current skill level is lower than your current placement so it will try to have you placed appropriately. You need to bring up your MMR by consistently winning more than you lose.

I had the opposite experience last season. It was my first season playing ranked but my approximate skill was mid- to high-Platinum. As such, my MMR quickly rose until I was playing with people several divisions above me at all times and my LP gains/losses were approximately +17/-7.

bbbMar 31, 20161 votes

Why +17, i get +24 lp for win and -16 <-> -18 for loose. Isn't the system working the same for everyone?(LP gains and losses should be in the same window relatvely,) You get less lp for winning and loose less lp for loosing. Why?

Mysticman89Mar 31, 20161 votes

Different mmr differentials will result in the same system giving different amounts for different players. I get ~25 for a win and lose ~15 currently myself.

The actual mmr difference with the particular oppoents you got matchmade with also makes a difference. If you had to wait for awhile during your queue then you can get matchmade with a bigger difference, and you gian relatively little for beating people lower than you, but gain mroe for beating people well above you.

bbbMar 31, 20161 votes

I meant that he said he gains +17 LP for win and +7 for loose. I said that i gain +24 per win and -16 per loose. It is almost proportional, but i have higher values to both winning and loosing, I didn't mean that the MMR is different. "You get less lp for winning and loose less lp for loosing" I didn't mean in general, i refered to the summoner "EndlessSorcerer" by "You".

Mysticman89Mar 31, 20161 votes

Well they did say approximately, and they are referring to what they were getting a season ago so might have some slight errors in their memory. (Or as their mmr inevitably shifted a lot over the course of the season, as well as their rank, they might be recalling their gains at a particular mmr in a particular rank, and their losses at a different mmr with a different rank.)

I wouldn't worry about it too much though, since it won't really influence how you actually play.

bbbApr 1, 20161 votes

Well I'm happy with my numbers, i mean if I have a 3-4 winstreak i am already from 0 lp to promos ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Mysticman89Mar 31, 20161 votes

Your LP gains/losses depends on your MMR relative to the average of the division. If your mmr is higher than the average of the division, you gain more LP than you lose, while the reverse is true if your mmr is lower than that of your division.

From the sounds of things, you have a B5 mmr, which is why it's hard to climb. If you keep up a >50% win rate though your mmr will slowly recover until your gains/losses equalise, and potentially even grow to where you're gaining more than you lose so climbing will be easier.