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1vmany·Nov 10, 2016·6 votes·3,529 views

I keep getting the same idiots saying the same thing, now you guys might argue i'm a stubborn mule, the fact is if someone tells me something that's true, i'm not stubborn, i'll research it and i'll consider if i accept it or not. now matchmaking being fair is the biggest load of bull i have ever heard. Everyone keeps telling me it's just you bla bla bla, and I keep telling them they are stupid. now i've played a lot of league games, and I can say if matchmaking doesn't want you to win, you are not going to win. because if you do it gets worse until you lose and cannot win at all.

you think i'm lying, unless you have a team, they will lower the quality of the players you get and raise the enemies quality until you cannot carry. i mean you may be going 31/10 feeling like you are amazing, next game you are 10/40, what happened is it took note of how good you were and shoved it right up your (insert bad words here) and now you are stuck in silver, fighting platinum level players (platinum being the highest actual tier in the game because to get to the other tiers you have to invest money into the game (arguably gold is highest but i managed to force my way into plat by 1v5ing the gold players harder than my teammates could feed them) )

now I've come to accept this, honestly i want to get to bronze as fast as possible because I want fair games. and based on what matchmaking has been doing to me i'm already getting bronze players so hopefully it will atleast lower the enemies skill level. so that's my goal, get to bronze this season so i can enjoy easy games and feel like climbing.

43 Comments

DrCyanideNov 10, 20165 votes

I feel like the heart of this post is "there are some games that are impossible to win", to which I reply with a quote a wise man once told me:

40% of your games you'll lose, no matter what you do. Look for what you could have done better, but don't dwell on it. 40% of your games you'll win, in spite of how bad you performed. Be grateful for the win, but don't count on them. 20% of games will be decided by your actions. Give them your all.

Wolfram OxfordNov 10, 20162 votes

Dis proven by challengers time and time again.

1vmanyNov 10, 20162 votes

the challengers i see, are challenger after 26 games, and I tend to seriously doubt them. find a challenger player to 1v1 me so i can analyze them. then we'll talk.

1vmanyNov 10, 20162 votes

I beat a diamond team with a silver team, explain that. maybe because diamond is actually bronze+ money.

EndlessSorcererNov 10, 20162 votes

Alternatively, it was a normal game and the Diamond players were playing off-roles, learning new champions, and/or not treating the game seriously.

1vmanyNov 10, 20162 votes

that is true, if it wasn't a ranked game, see it was a new team, and for our placements we got a buncha bs. then we got placed in silver after winning the buncha bs, we looked them up first. somehow we just happened to get lucky enough to get bent over before we even got placed. and all of the people had the highest rank of diamond. it's crazy right? we even asked them about it.

Rito TenerenOct 20, 20171 votes

Bro I commented down lower about me stomping a challenger yasuo. He was pro-level, his 5's team was challenger and I was hard stuck gold 5 lmao. He ran his mouth as did I and we did a custom and he played hi main, and was tryhard af and I wrecked him so bad he ragequit. It's all just random. I have seen amazing players in silver and awful players in diamond/challenger. It's all just random af because the fact is no matchmaking system can work effectively when thousands of people per month are getting boosted, buying accounts, smurfing, duo'ing, and w/e else they just can't account for everything. Not to mention countless scripters who yes they might get banned but how many games does each scripter play before getting banned? How many games ruined per day by "scripters who are not yet banned"??? And before any of you naive idiots try to say "yea blame scripters lol no one does that blah blah i'm a retard blah" THEN WHY did riot sue leaguesharp or w/e for selling scripts lmao clearly it's a large issue if they are taking legal action. Also I see it ALL THE TIME because i'm a programmer and smart enough to know it when I see it. Also although I have never used scripts for evading / skillshots or w/e else, I did use elobuddy to run some bots because I was trying to sell level 30 accounts on Ebay. It failed, whenever they hit level 30 they got banned lol but still when I was setting up all the botting scripts and all that I saw the menu with all the stuff you could do. Evade+ and things that make it so you can move and attack faster than the limit, all kinds of crazy stuff, and guess what I looked up the elobuddy website as well as some others and they are getting 10's of thousands of visits weekly. Hmm no ones scripting eh? I can prove most of my theories which isn't good news for all the tards I get in my games who disagree with me and call me out on my theories. That's a LOT of wrong people.

Wolfram OxfordNov 10, 20162 votes

1v1s have no real display of competency in terms of winning actual games.

1vmanyNov 10, 20162 votes

no they don't show teamwork values, but I would be able to get a grasp on their capabilities. how fast they can move, their limits, how fast they can think and adapt to new situations, what their habits are. and i'm pretty good at it, I think i could make a rough assumption of what they would bring to a team. I mean if they can't hold their own against me, the game would be over before they had a chance to pull out anything fancy.

Rito TenerenOct 20, 20172 votes

What makes me angry though is when I lose games with like 15k gold, whole enemy team has 13k and my teammates all have like 6k each lol. Clearly rigged af.

DrCyanideNov 10, 20162 votes

Proven right by Challengers time and time again. Look at any account they have that's not new and you'll see the vast majority have a win rate <60%.

http://na.op.gg/ranking/ladder/

1vmanyNov 10, 20161 votes

yeah well in my ranked, it's 10% of the games are actually carriable, 50% of the games make you wish you were never there, and 40% of the games are false hope. it's false because you think you have a good team, then after laning phase, they never group. I think this is the biggest skill difference, I can tolerate them being slightly under skilled. but when the skill difference is so bad that it's just in your face, i'm talking they don't know what a group is, they can't win their lane, they can't even 4v1 one of the enemies. it's not right, it's not supposed to happen. i'm fighting 5 people that are working as a team grouped up together and trying to take my tower. and my teams in lala land. the only thing i can think of, is that the game which was increasingly giving me worse games to fight, had to go so far as to give me people that had no clue what they were doing, to make the game balanced against actual players.

ZoshiroNov 10, 20163 votes

Exactly why this game is pointless and broken. 80% of the games are pointless.

1vmanyNov 10, 20162 votes

well i mean they have a point. they want money for rating, but yeah that's about right.

FioraWillCarryNov 10, 20162 votes

This is the strangest post I've ever read.

Rito TenerenOct 20, 20172 votes

Because you're probably too stupid / uneducated (in computer science) to understand it. You think matchmaking is just this random thing and you magically get put into games with other people at random. When actually Riot keeps track of every single mouse click you make, what you buy, every variable in relation to how you play is recorded in countless lines of data, and it is then used with an algorithm, which at this point is pretty much artifical intelligence, to rig the shit out of your games and everyone else's games to push people toward a 50% winrate. The reason for this is because it adds a certain addictive quality to the game. If you won everything you would stop playing out of boredom and lack of challenge. If you lost everything you would get frustrated and play some other game. This is what keeps us playing, this intelligent yet evil matchmaking "algorithm" yes "algorithm" go google that word and do some basic programming and let it all begin to unfold before you little one.

FioraWillCarryFeb 11, 20181 votes

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Because you're probably too stupid / uneducated (in computer science) to understand it.

I make a living in IT which is why I know all that stuff you and the OP wrote is bullshit. Don't speak about things you know nothing about. It makes you sound really unintelligent.

1wolfpackNov 10, 20162 votes

I didnt read the post only the tittle

my 2 cents -ranked has always been rigged

1vmanyNov 10, 20162 votes

so it is becoming apparent to me, that i'm attracting a buncha idiots. which I don't mind, actually i like it. it lets me know that their is an abundant wool supply from all the stupid sheep. so yes, hate me more, think i'm stupid, i'm laughing at you too.

ItsOrvalNov 10, 20162 votes

https://s22.postimg.org/41sit3nu9/Trump_Warns_Election_May_Be_Rigged_800x416.png

1vmanyNov 10, 20162 votes

so I'm having a blast. i'm trolling people banning things like taric telling them ima urgot or jinx bot and that i need cs for boots xD I dodge at the very end before the game starts so i just have as much fun as I can until then. i also include that I like to go bare so i leave my runes and masteries empty for the natural feel.

DynamiaJul 7, 20172 votes

because it's the psychology of spending. When you spend money, your chances of winning increase. When this happens, your brain releases dopamine and associates winning with spending money and you keep playing. The more you play, the more you begin to lose so in order to reactive those receptors, you spend money. Then you win a bit more but then you start losing. It's a vicious cycle to keep the average person at a lower elo so they spend money.

This is an actual algorithm for generating money. It's in every game. Magic the Gathering was the first game to do this with their packs to create an addictive gambling effect. World of Warcraft with the random item drops. Same thing. Now everyone does it. Hearthstone. Same problem. League of Legends same thing.

Try playing 25 games within two days and see what happens.

If you play too much for free then you get punished for it if you're not spending money.

When people lose, they gotta keep playing to make up for their losses but when they keep losing they want to feel better so they spend again.

It's a psychological trap. The shitty thing about online gaming.

DynamiaJul 7, 20172 votes

Casinos do it.

What's stopping someone from doing the same thing?

This guy has a better explanation on the subject.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/2wa3h8/hearthstone_algorithms_rigged_theory_psychology/

Rito TenerenOct 20, 20172 votes

Dude of all my theories and tests and...just so much time and effort into figuring out why I get 3 losing lanes ( I main jg) for 7+ games in a row and I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS. Well once I kind of noticed years ago...when officer Vi came out, I bought RP to get officer vi and I went from hard stuck gold 5 to like 15 super-easy games in a row. Lately though I don't think it's working. I don't know if they changed something or what. I spent $10 yesterday and won 3 games but then it went back to all 3 lanes losing, game after game. They may have watered it down a bit due to people noticing lol. Excellent theory though, I guarantee it at least plays a small part in it.

DynamiaOct 26, 20172 votes

Yea. I find more and more and more people are willing to accept what I'm saying because it happens so often. I think Riot knows once they can make money off you and you'll keep playing indefinitely, they water it down. But yea, I toss in 5 bucks during promos and they become a breeze all of a sudden.

MagicFlyingLlamaNov 10, 20161 votes

Welcome to ranked, nothing new to see here.

If your goal is really lowering your rank so you can have fun, i suggest you just play normal games, because ranked is not for you.

1vmanyNov 10, 20162 votes

you misunderstand me, i'm not going to troll the ranked people. i'm going to dodge the ques until i'm bronze.

MagicFlyingLlamaNov 11, 20161 votes

That will just get you banned eventually. And it is really dumb. Bronze is a pit, why would you want to intentionally go there?

At this point i am almost totally sure this is a troll thread.

Rito TenerenOct 20, 20172 votes

No, it won't. Dodging does not result in a ban. I was using it as a strategy to climb and it failed after a while, as if matchmaking caught on to it. It started putting me against people with 10+ KDA's and 100% winrates in the role they were playing. I actually understand what OP is saying. I have repeatedly run down mid because I got so angry after 5 or more games with all 3 lanes losing (I play jg). Even games where I wuold gank a lot, get some kills, enemy jg would just farm and all my lanes would still lose. So don't go saying it was my fault because it literally wasn't. I even had 7 games in a row where we could not get one turret. I believe on the 7th one I got a turret just because of pure frustration, and we lost nexus because of it lmao. And don't even try to say I was trolling, at that point it was unwinnable anyway so don't start with that BS. That's what those idiots said. All 4 of them like 0/10 and then blamed the whole game on my getting that turret instead of trying to defend nexus for another 30 seconds b4 losing anyway LOL that's how stupid they are.

Ravenous HowlsNov 10, 20161 votes

I couldn't get through it to be honest. It was so sporadic and had no consistency on how he was trying to convey his point. God Bless the American Education System...

1vmanyNov 10, 20162 votes

well i took one english class in the seventh grade, then i slept for the rest of the years. so not entirely the education systems fault.

1vmanyNov 10, 20162 votes

although, if you can't get through it, i'd like to argue that maybe your mind is just weak and inflexible. considering i can normally read about 300 pages a day of a book much harder than what i typed. so might wanna work on that.

NahuiNov 24, 20161 votes

If you win 50+% games, you'll climb and get better and better opponents until you go below 50%. There's a reason you gain more LP than You typically lose for win/lose. It's designed that way in that a 50% or above is a climb. You climb until you get to a point where you stagnate at sub 50%. Then you stay there or retract until you completely stagnate. You stay there until you get good enough to hit 50 again.

Look, you can pretend it's not your fault. People are entitled to their wrong opinions. You can pretend high ELO players have the money to bribe a multimillion dollar corporation into raising their arbitrary rank. You can pretend the game is rigged against YOU 1vmany because Riot simply doesn't like you. You pissed someone at Riot off and they sit there, monitoring your games and when you queue, they search for poorly performing players and purposefully match YOU, 1vmany, with them just so they can have the satisfaction of seeing you suffer.

Stop being ridiculous and play the damned game. Watch the pros. Watch redmercy, he's super informative when he plays. He's high diamond. He literally narrates his thought process as he plays. It's radically different than mine as a gold 3. His is better, he accounts more for risk, knows damage of the champions better, and knows timings. That's why I'm gold 3 and he's diamond. Does he make mistakes and fucks up bronze style? Yeah. Those are outliers. He doesn't consistently do those so he stays there in diamond. You think he writes checks to Riot so they can keep him there? Cmon, say that to yourself and try not to scoff.

I'm gold 3. I'm no pro, but I'm no silver or bronze. How did I get here? Think I have it in with Riot? No. I play, I get better, I either carry or contribute heavily and I win. I also fuck up, I don't roam correctly, I don't ward properly, I go in stupidely and I prioritize champion damage over CS in lane often. That's why I'm not diamond. Not because Riot has it out for me, but because I'll play zed in lane and blindly W-Q-E for harass, damaging the wave and missing most of the cs, then have no W and overextend and get ganked and die. That's why I'm gold 3. I'll go and try and steal a blue buff with no wards, and the jungler and lane will collapse and take me out. That's why I'm gold 3.

But, I don't blame the game for where I am. I acknowledge my retardation and my lack of proper course of actions in game. That's why I'm not bronze or silver. I don't blame trolls, afks, bad players. I see what I did wrong, and I work on it. That's why I have a gold border and a free skin.

Keep blaming Riot. You'll stay in bronze or silver in your self-righteous, delirious world. I'll be here with the others honestly trying to climb.

1vmanyNov 28, 20162 votes

this, is the biggest load of bull i have ever heard. you can keep your fantasies, here is what I think, riot sold out. they go with these korean guys, give them easy games so they can grow and enjoy themselves. and I'll tell you what, riot is a bunch of pansies, they can't do much of anything, they try to go under this our game is fair joke when they have so many things going on in the sidelines it would make a priest stealing from the church look like a pope. or maybe it's because they are afraid to give me fair games, it would make their brown nosers look bad.

NahuiNov 28, 20161 votes

You're delusional. Have a nice day.

Rito TenerenOct 20, 20172 votes

I read the first sentence of this and stopped reading. You are wrong. I once ..actually twice climbed to plat 5 and plat 4 and when I hit plat I saw some of the worst players I have ever seen..on my team of course. The enemies were nothing special either but my teammates didn't even lane. Or farm. They just walked around aimlessly dying. They were clearly boosted or something. I would have rather had bronze 5 teammates than them. That's how bad they were. And they were plat. I have also destroyed diamond and challenger players in custom games playing their main champs even. At the time I was hard-stuck gold 5 lol I am no pro. Clearly they aren't either though. I even got in an argument once with a semi-pro yasuo main (on a girl stream on twitch) he was bragging so I challenged him to a custom. He got to play his main yasuo mid, I got to play mine vi jungle. The teams were a bit unbalanced in his favor, especially due to me being gold 5 lol. I ganked him like 3 times and it was literally the 3 easiest ganks of my life. Easiest yasuo to gank lmao. I ended up killing him like 7 times and he ragequit. He was diamond 1 and on a challenger 5's team. I even took screenshots for proof lol. I'm pretty sure I still have them actually. I also challenged Meteos in that same screen, to jg against each other in a custom and he replied with "no you are not worthy" lmao. I'm pretty sure I would have stomped him too. I was taught by xj9 and he's better than any pro jg (in NA anyway I don't know about the rest). Even with lessons from xj9 I can't get past low plat, or usually gold due to this issue of getting completely unbalanced teams. I kind of think it has to do with not spending $$ on the game, as some other people pointed out. I don't know, I can't prove it but some shady stuff going on 4 sure.

NahuiOct 21, 20171 votes

You're delusional. Keep thinking that you can take on challengers on the norm just because some retard diamond 1 Yasuo got cocky and decided not to try.

You climb if you deserve it. There are troll games, and there are games where the enemy gets trolled. They even out, even if it takes a large sample size. You get AFKs, enemy gets AFKS. You have an extreme self-serving bias where you, and many others, seem to think only they get trolls and afkers and bad players and the enemy is always loaded. But when the enemy bot lane wipes 4 times buy 9 mins, your ignorant little mind chooses to shut that memory out so you can't recall that it works in your favor too.

You and everyone else needs to stop trying to find excuses for losing. You lost, get over it. Doesn't matter why, it doesn't make you better pointing out others' flaws. Even if you're right, even if it was 0% your fault and your team tanked the entire thing, in the end, you still lose 15-25 LP. Complaining won't fix that. Know what will? Hitting play again. Trying again.

You say climbing is impossible, yet somehow new players hit diamond-challenger all the time. But yes, Riot looks over their roster of 11million+ players, finds your name, and decides "This man. This one isn't allowed to climb. DDoS his allies' connections so he gets afks and queue him with poorly performing players. This one in particular isn't allowed to climb."

Get over it and try harder.

Dr DogOct 20, 20171 votes

they really need to take previous season into consideration, almost every ranked game ive vsed people who were high gold or plat the previous season with a couple like that on m team (borders are a giveaway) and the highest ive ever been is s5 so now im having so much trouble climbing because no matter how good i am near my own level i cant compete with people who were plat or high gold its stupid

TP4MyBungHolioJul 4, 20181 votes

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I keep getting the same idiots saying the same thing, now you guys might argue i'm a stubborn mule, the fact is if someone tells me something that's true, i'm not stubborn, i'll research it and i'll consider if i accept it or not. now matchmaking being fair is the biggest load of bull i have ever heard. Everyone keeps telling me it's just you bla bla bla, and I keep telling them they are stupid. now i've played a lot of league games, and I can say if matchmaking doesn't want you to win, you are not going to win. because if you do it gets worse until you lose and cannot win at all.

you think i'm lying, unless you have a team, they will lower the quality of the players you get and raise the enemies quality until you cannot carry. i mean you may be going 31/10 feeling like you are amazing, next game you are 10/40, what happened is it took note of how good you were and shoved it right up your (insert bad words here) and now you are stuck in silver, fighting platinum level players (platinum being the highest actual tier in the game because to get to the other tiers you have to invest money into the game (arguably gold is highest but i managed to force my way into plat by 1v5ing the gold players harder than my teammates could feed them) )

now I've come to accept this, honestly i want to get to bronze as fast as possible because I want fair games. and based on what matchmaking has been doing to me i'm already getting bronze players so hopefully it will atleast lower the enemies skill level. so that's my goal, get to bronze this season so i can enjoy easy games and feel like climbing.

Riot controls 100% if you are going to win the next game or lose it. Only an AFK can change that. This is the bedrock of how the game works. Riot wants full control of all games to balance it as they wish. It's totally unfair to the best players, but Riot knows they are addicted and new players need wins to get addicted. Yes, this game is analogous to a drug and Riot is the pusher.

Make it more fair Riot, by scrapping this system and match people only at their level. It would make all games close and more fun for all.

SmorzTOMay 25, 20191 votes

games are all rigged. get above 50% win and you will always get at least 1 afk. lol is matching system is a joke.

SmorzTOMay 25, 20191 votes

why does the person who called the lane get banned because of the trolls who refuse to acknowledge a lane was called and go to that lane anyways, causing unbalance. they ruined the game, then report the person who actually called the lane and get them banned.

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