Assist System = KS'ing Impossible

Minion Fetish··3 votes·733 views

Let's say you are ADC'ing and let's say you did 80% of the damage to kill the enemy ADC but your support did 20% of the damage to kill the enemy ADC but accidentally takes the kill, (cough* cough* Blitz passive) so wouldn't it make sense that the ADC gets most of the gold for he/she did most of the work/damage to kill the opponent. Appose to who ever gets the kill gets the kill gold and people who helped get a small amount of gold. I think the assist gold and kill gold, should be given to you depending on the amount of damage, or other things maybe like cc that you contributed to get that kill. Up to a minimum and max. That way if you use all your damage resources into killing someone and a teammate walks by with 1 auto and gets the kill, well instead of the person who stole the kill getting all the gold and you with little for your trouble. Gold should be given to you by how much you contributed to get the kill so the person who did the most work gets the most gold for that kill, and not by who happen to get the last tick damage on that enemy health bar. With this kind of system I could imagine there would be no such thing as KS'ing and would reward true teamwork. Although there is no such thing as la for its a team game I still believe Riot should make an assist system, maybe not like this but but the theory here itself I hope could start something.

13 Comments

Smegma1233 votes

Yeah but what if Blitz didn't pull that champ into your range with a sick flash hook through minion wave...so doesn't he deserve the kill then?

IcyPepper2 votes

To be fair, damage scales better with gold than utility does.

Even though I mostly play support, I would rather my adc get 80% of the kills in bot lane (and the other 20% to whoever roams down to help us out). I'll get gold by helping.

Minion Fetish1 votes

Yes and your ADC can still get 80% of the kills or even all the kills but the assist system I would imagine would give a little more gold to those who helped to get the kill as if you are either a support a mid lamer coming down for a roam your are sure to get more gold for an assist apposed to a set number of gold you get for an assist. So this wouldn't harm anyone in people not getting enough gold wise if you think about it.

Minion Fetish1 votes

Your comment is kinda confusing lol, but I think I got the just of what yours trying to say. So if your support did do a sick play to get you the kill, even though the support deserves the kill, the role of a support is to well "support" the team but in laning faze you aid your ADC to win lane, not so you the support can get fed. Every time a support makes a bad ass play doesn't mean they "deserve" the kill as they did it for a purpose, mainly to get your teammates fed or you fed to help your team, but there is only a few supports that kill for themself to get fed to help the team ie. Annie

Minion Fetish1 votes

Your comment is kinda confusing lol, but I think I got the just of what yours trying to say. So if your support did do a sick play to get you the kill, even though the support deserves the kill, the role of a support is to well "support" the team but in laning faze you aid your ADC to win lane, not so you the support can get fed. Every time a support makes a bad ass play doesn't mean they "deserve" the kill as they did it for a purpose, mainly to get your teammates fed or you fed to help your team, but there is only a few supports that kill for themself to get fed to help the team ie. Annie

Durzaka2 votes

And what about for supports that have a lot of damage? What if Annie Ults-W-Qs someone and the ADC finishes the last 20%? Or maybe the APC during a team fight bursts someone low but cant finish them but the ADC does?

What happens then?

Minion Fetish1 votes

Well in the case of a APC bursting someone down but can't finish, and ADC finishes the job with last AA, well the ADC would still get the kill, BUT the APC would get more gold as he/she did the work for that kill, and the ADC would get gold as said above set to a "minimum or maximum" depending how much damage did for that kill. As for those supports who do a lot of damage ie. Annie or Sona... Well I'm not sure how to answer that one tbh XD but in my personal opinion if you have the kind of support who does all the damage and just does the work so your ADC can pick up the kills once the opponent get low... Well, why aren't you playing mid lol. But in truth told your APC support would be carrying you, in that case bot lane meta would be changed in that part... And not sure if you have noticed but Riot is currently trying to change the bot lane meta (cough* cough* look at mord rework*) http://youtu.be/iyU4di8lMk0

Durzaka3 votes

I was being facetious with my questions.

My point was to show just because you did the most damage doesnt mean you deserve the kill.

Whoever gets the killing blow is the simplest way to resolve everything except one of the few scenarios you listed in the OP.

Minion Fetish1 votes

The point on just because you did most to contribute to that kill ie damage, doesn't mean you deserve the kill. Can I have an example? I'm not asking in a rude way nor am I denying what you are saying, I just need a little insight in what you mean.

Durzaka1 votes

The point is being able to funnel your gold to whoever you want (just having the option to) via whoever gets the last hit is far more important for the game than trying to fix killstealing.

Maybe jungler ganks for top/bot. Let say someone like Elise. Lands cocoon, human Q-W, Spider Q, and Elise just chunked for over 50% hp. The ADC cannot get the kill from this gank now even if the jungler wants to give the kill to them.

Being able to directly control your teams gold flow is important to the game.

Mathbalnase1 votes

How do you calculate the value towards a kill of a root as compared to a nuke? Or a stun? A shield? A damage buff that attributes its damage to the recipient over the source (such as any AS boost, Janna shield, etc)?

Minion Fetish1 votes

What I said above was just a theory, as if riot was to go with this I'm sure they would come up with some logical numbers and ratios that would best fit the system with the details and ect. I'm simply trying to start an idea. :)

Ratbert2 votes

It would be very hard to put values on cc, as cc has different value depending on the context.

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