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Nimbus Cloud, Essence Reaver, and the importance of precision in language

Shiki Ryougi·6/14/2018, 6:34:00 PM·29 votes·11,307 views

First part, Verbiage matters Nimbus Cloak, Essence Reaver, and possibly other things (You can't test Zeke's Convergence in testing mode. Good job.) share similar verbiage. Nimbus Cloak: "Casting an ultimate ability" Essence Reaver: "After you cast your ultimate," Zeke's Convergence: "Casting your ultimate" They do not trigger on the same conditions, at least for Nimbus Cloak and Essence Reaver which can be tested. Please be more distinct in wording so that these things are clearly different because they are by behavior.

Inconsistency and likely unintended interactions Quinn's Behind Enemy Lines triggers Nimbus Cloak only after the end of the channel, while Skystrike triggers Essence Reaver. The wording of the items implies that Nimbus Cloak and Zeke's Convergence should begin their effect once you start to cast the ability, not 'after' like Essence Reaver suggests. Riven triggers both Nimbus Cloak and Essence Reaver on Blade of the Exile, doesn't trigger either on Wind Slash (Tested in practice where you can desync the cooldown of Nimbus Cloak and Riven's ultimate). Kled's movement speed is unmodifiable during his ultimate and as such Nimbus Cloak does literally nothing for him and should be disabled just like manaflow band is for manaless champions. Each use of Ahri's Spirit Rush dashes resets the Essence Flare Primed buff. (Also the tooltip for Ahri's Spirit Rush doesn't actually say it can be cast at no cost.) Lux. Lux, Lux, Lux. You have Nimbus Cloak trigger after your ultimate finishes its cast. But Essence Reaver gives Lux the Essence Flare Primed buff as soon as you begin the cast. That's behavior that is opposite of what the text suggests. Kayne is in the same situation is Lux. Nimbus Cloak triggers as he exits the target. Essence Flare Primed is granted while still inside the target. Xerath, casting his ultimate grants the Essence Flare Primed buff, recasting refreshes that. Once it completes Nimbus Cloak triggers. (Sidenote, I am curious about the survivabiliy/damage tradeoff with going bruiser Xerath and capitalizing on your regular abilities instead of playing the archetypical artillery mage; at 40% cooldown reduction Xerath's self-cancelled ultimate and Essence Reaver have the same cooldown.)

There are probably other strange cases that I'm missing, but I'm not getting paid for this. Please make the behavior of items and masteries consistent with the language used to describe that behavior. Or change the language to reflect the behavior. Either way, clarity is important. Right now you have the buff that most-often triggers immediately on cast as being described as occurring after the ultimate is cast but the buff that occurs most often after effects are complete and you have the ability to move champions being described as occurring simultaneously with the cast. Something has to give.

12 Comments

Crow Nebula6/14/2018, 6:49:49 PM14 votes

It's Nimbus Cloak, not Nimbus Cloud. Ironic that you get this wrong in a thread about precision in language.

ZackTheWaffleMan6/15/2018, 1:43:55 AM8 votes

did somebody say

#PRECISIONCamille

Automated Riven6/15/2018, 12:42:55 AM2 votes

I would assume nimbus cloak was coded that way so that channel times didn't take away from the movement speed.

Considering that essense reaver's 8 second cooldown starts on auto attack rather then the actual cast it would make very little difference when the actual buff gets triggered.

mzicio6/15/2018, 5:12:43 PM1 votes

Very out of topic, but there is another in-game description that is misleading in english and astoundingly bad in the italian translation and it's not been fixed yet, and that's Warwick's Q:

Warwick lunges forward and bites his target. While the key is held down, he will attach to the target then leap behind them. On release, deals [120% AD]+[90% AP] plus 6/7/8/9/10% of your target's maximum health as magic damage (applies On Hit effects). Heal 30/40/50/60/70% of damage dealt. While attached, Warwick is connected to the target and follows an movement they make.

That's NOT how the ability works. By reading this, I understand that by holding down Q he leaps at a target and attaches to them for an indeterminate amount of time, as long as i'm holding down Q he stays attached, and then when I release it he detaches and deals the damage.

[sg-lux-2]

You can kinda make sense out of it in english if you assume that "On release" is referring to Warwick jumping off the target and not you releasing the button, but doesn't change the fact that it fucked up the italian translation very very badly.

Zeraon6/15/2018, 2:17:03 AM1 votes

Nimbus cloak has a delay to its activation of like 1s or something i believe right?

My Waifu Vanilla6/15/2018, 4:56:42 AM1 votes

Most of that is Nimbus Cloak having a delay on activation isn't it? They specifically gave it a delay so that ults with cast times didn't spend half the buff still casting their ultimate iirc.

Rouwhorst6/15/2018, 7:19:12 AM1 votes

If the movement speed bonus of nimbus cloak only applied/calculated once? A short kled ult should work otherwise.