Leblanc was nerfed WAAAAAY too hard. (Be gentle please) >_<

Cridraw··6 votes·1,366 views

Before you read PLEASE understand I have played Leblanc for a long time and I know at stages she was pretty powerful in the right hands. I kept relearning her with each rework and tweak she received, but it went waaay too far with the most recent nerf. I think it was fabulous that Leblanc had some waive-clear introduced into her kit with the assassin rework and I even suppose it was a fair trade that she can no longer jump back straight away after W. However, I find it extremely unfair that she (as an assassin) was nerfed into the ground for being too "assassiny?" She is completely unplayable now and CANNOT assassinate ANYONE. I enjoy that I have to methodically plan her moves out now in order to reap the benefit of her passive. Yet there is no reward if the enemy still gets away anyway. Compare Leblanc with any other assassin (or any mage now since all the mages do way too much damage now anyway). I could sit Leblanc in a bush and throw my entire combo out at an unsuspecting enemy champion but the enemy would either flash out of chains, kill me, or simply NOT DIE. Yet, if we replace the scenario with Annie, Talon, Kat, Veigar...etc, They would kill their target perhaps even before finishing their combo. Maybe she can get away with killing the adc but when is the adc ever really alone (if playing safely)? I think it was fine that Riot put all her damage into her chains because it made her skill cap go up even more. But removing the slow from her E makes it difficult to fulfill that as well. Essentially there is no other way to play her other than landing E but even that does not secure an assassination. Point is, Leblanc is still a fun champ after her big assassin rework but with her damage where it is right now after her most recent nerf, you can no longer call her an assassin. I do not enjoy trading 0% benefit to her team for decent waive-clear. She needs to be balanced. But halving her damage was NOT the way to go. Riot, please address her.

19 Comments

DoktorKaiser3 votes

Still has one of the highest win rate in high elo. She needs to be reverted since obvioulsy the only other option is to nerf her even more to the point where she will be trash.

Lebłanc Bot2 votes

Thank you. Hopefully riot actually will listen.

Zein3 votes

Boards are anti-Lebalnc. Here, its thought lb is a braindead cancerous op champion even after the nerfs. Dont try to discuss her on the boards, the ahri mains will downvote you into oblivion. Btw, gunbalde leblanc is a hoax , it isnt anything special.

Cridraw3 votes

This is a valid point v_v I just think its unfair that enough whining got my champion of 6 years nerfed into the ground and I have to just find a new champ while one-shotters remain untouched.

Lebłanc Bot3 votes

Old downvoted because everybody here hates Leblanc. You are completely right she can assassinate anyone now and she lacks an identity. I mean gunblade is the best way to play her now. I didn't care much for wave clear. I want to play an assassin not a wave clear chain bot. Please riot revert the rework.

LostFr0st2 votes

I think the problem was that she's been nerfed the wrong way. Her chain full procing her passive by itself at a huge tether range (not talking cast range, talking tether range here) is the frustrating bit.

Right now she's just running around with item 3146 item 3100 item 3135 and killing people with that. I also heard her Q shatter proc counts as single-target for the item 3146 heal but I haven't confirmed it myself.

PentaJuke1 votes

Nope it counts as aoe they fixed the bug like 4 patches ago

BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votes

She already has wave clear on her Q, so why give her a secondary way to effectively clear a wave?

Cridraw3 votes

Definitely missing the point. I'm saying I would rather have lb be an assassin again than have waive clear

BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votes

How am I missing he point when was this one of your points you kept reiterating

Lebłanc Bot2 votes

That's what any Leblanc mains wants. They want to play an assassin not a mags. Mages have wave clear assassins do not.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

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She is completely unplayable now and CANNOT assassinate ANYONE.

I played against a Leblanc yesterday. She had no problem taking 3/4 of my HP whenever she wanted. She wasn't nerfed enough. Still broken as fuck.

Cridraw3 votes

3/4?? Did u read my concern? If u weren't dead then she is not an assassin. But you are perfectly ok with Annie one shotting u???

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Annie has to walk in close to do it. Leblanc can do it from the other side of the lane any time she wants.

Lebłanc Bot1 votes

Yeah cuz you don't want to counter her. You got outplayed. You didn't want to counter her. Just broken. It takes a very very good Leblanc player now just to do any damage. But yes maybe she is broken. That would hopefully mean she can be reverted from this stupid rework. But no she is very underpowered in her current state. How about you actually play her.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Counter ? There's no countering her. She stands in front of your minions and it's gg for your laning. You're not getting any farm. Your only hope is that your other lanes win and they can carry you when you're two items behind everyone else because you could only get 20 CS in the laning phase. That's how you "counter" her.

Azureee1 votes

You are right but these boards will not stop complaining till she is unviable. As soon as Gunblade became popular on her, people want it gutted. As soon as she is strong there is whining about her everywhere. People want her to do no damage. They want her to W in, cast nothing and auto enemies to death(which they will STILL whine about). They cry about her chain range. Great, lets nerf that and gut her some more, I hate multiple champs but I don't cry about them till they do 0 damage because I actually adapt to them and got used to playing against them.

Dominick Destine1 votes

Original Leblanc (release) was straight up cancer, not as bad as release Xin but very close.

Regular Leblanc for several years, was alright.

Then they inexplicably buffed her and that was complete cancer again.

Then they reworked her and she was still cancer.

Now she's a bit nerfed, given their track record with her, I'd say its for the best.

EDIT: The real problem with LeBlanc is that her design makes her impossible to balance. Her range is too low to be a poke champ but she's too nimble to be an assassin. The idea is (for some reason) to make her a kiting champ but that would only work if her cooldowns were low which they aren't.

Basically she's yet another failed rework where they will inevitably gut her until her second rework.

Lugg1 votes

Sorry, but hell no she wasn't. She is one of the top 3 safest champs to play in the game. The nerfs were totally justified and she is probably in the best place she has been in since release. There isn't any big risk at all ever playing her, so the reward should be much less.

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