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STOP NERFING MALZAHAR

Abe7··6 votes·1,473 views

Hello everyone, I dont speak much on forums, acctually this is my first post here. But this time on 'Malzahar matter' my attention is really required.

Allow me first to introduce myself, I'm Malzahar. I really mean it. Since begining of season 4, first champion that I ever played was Malzahar, and at that moment I instantly fell in love with him. Since then, I played in every season (ranked ofc, as soon as I was able in season 4) over 500+ games with my dear Malza. So by now I guarantee I have over 1500+ games with him(ranked only). Playing with him so much, I was able to get 38th place in the world with Malza in season 5 ( according to LOLSkill website). In that preseason I finally succeded to get in Diamond tier, but unfortunatelly it was preseason :(

So, lets talk now about changes that happened to him lately. By that i mean rework of him. First let me say I dont like it at all. From being nuker as AP (could kill every single tank) to being even more op as AD (I liked to call him SUPER carry while in jungle), this rework made him really lame champion with no more nuking power as AP or that kind of threat in jungle with his passive voidlings as AD. Only in first patch (when he was obviously too buffed and banned in ranked play from less than 1% to over more than 90%) he was viable to play...

But then came nerfs...one after another.... to finally this one when I really had to say something.

I understand that rework is done and there is no turning back(but personally i would like to bring old malza back). And ofc if your intention was to make one of your oldest champions, from being no questionably 1v1 best champion out there to middle strong fighter in 1v1, then i understand you, but that means that original LOL lost his charm for me.

So lets see the facts:

............His Q, Call of the Void. It was my main spell to master first, was enormously usefull in teamfights. I would usually hit 3+ champions with silence of 3 sec, enemy wouldnt have much things to do. Now its 2 sec, also dmg lowered. And that is his only evasion skill. Seriously, evasion?? But still, it was his only. He got his passive now, but passive that is being nerfed again and again. From 1 sec to 0,25sec and from 6 sec to 12 sec on his last lvl, come on ppl, who is so bitter on him inside your developers ranks? .............Then his W, Null Zone. Nerfs were: no insta dmg, lowered dmg. His new W, Void Swarm spell is a weak version of his passive before. But whats done is done. Now his ulty has Null Zone too, but again its only lame shadow of what Null Zone was before. Dmg again down. ..............His E, Malefic Visions, is kinda buffed than before, only because Q has opportunity to refresh spell. (Also pls fix bug: when u cast E on minion which is about to die, sometimes his E goes on cd, but is not being casted) ..............And His ulty gives again so much less dmg than before. .............Finally his passive. Core of his jungler capacity before. Voidlings with 600+ dmg in mid to early late game would really melt everyone in their path. Now voidlings give spread dmg of 5-6 for limited amount of time. Only if all 6 voidlings get on the same target (which is hard because player cant control them and they last less time than before) would give close to equal dmg output( again in favor to old Malza).

So whats the point of my post here? Point is pls dont let one of your oldest champions falls to oblivion. You guys just need to find way to buff him again and to be competitive like he was before. For fun you can try fighting old malza vs new. You'll see how much stronger 1v1 he was before. He was totally underplayed before, and now it seems he is going to be even forgotten.

Abe7

29 Comments

Pootality5 votes

Well when u have one of most op champs in game , and huge ban ran. He's going to be nerfed. My hec got nerfed but I'm glad as hoping will let actually play him instead of him being banned every game

zlumpy1 votes

What was Zed's ban rate again?

Sukishoo1 votes

It's currently 31%. Malz comes in at 41%. Vlad comes in at 66% and Hec leads at 78%

zlumpy1 votes

Weird. That must be you high elo guys then. At lower ranks everyone hates him so much he sits in the top 4 most of the time. Last I checked he was at 4th highest ban for my elo area.

Btw I totally get why high elo doesn't ban him. Thats why I never said OP just implied high ban rate.

LordGeovanni1 votes

how do you check bans per elo

yoniame1 votes

hmm i go around in prettyy varius tiers in normals, but never saw a really strong hecarim, his whole kit can be countered without special builds or efforts, what causes him bans?

LordGeovanni1 votes

or you can build these item 3022 item 3116

Siyther2 votes

what like mana gating the hell outta malz wasnt enough. hell u only get a little more than one rotation of spells b4 your out of mana early game.they keep nerfing his damage then they finaaly nerf the actual problem which is his cd on passive but he is going to be fucked unless they revert his damage nerfs. he is a zero mobilty mage those guys are supposed to do tons of damage as they have no escape or mobiltiy. Now they have made him a zero mobilty mage with no dps. Im sad for him cause i loved old malz and had high hopes for rework that they were going to give him controlable voidlings.

Abe73 votes

Nailed it! What I was trying to say all the way. In one sentence : Mage with zero mobility and zero escape mehanism just need as a must =high dmg at least!

LordGeovanni1 votes

still has high damage and can keep full mana through out the game by farming and just useing e which zones the enmy away from farming or it will go on them and free poke after you still got some mana back his ult is a game changer from a considerable range the the damage is still high its just not bs high like before once you summon 2 voidlings jsut for putting 1 next to your enemy you already out damage his old passive and it can spawn so much more and swarm like the curse the mummy (not sad though)

Abe72 votes

Not true about dmg output at all...my first post was all about how Riot nerfed everything even his dmg... And if he is going to be still viable champion dmg must be higher... Old Malza got more dmg from his voidlings than new one. Read carrefully post pls...

LordGeovanni1 votes

thats what your post was about but it isnt true that his damge is low it just doesnt 1 shot you for landing any of his skills anymore

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

I felt the exact same was when Udyr was popular.

I didn't care about him getting nerfs (since I could adapt); I just wanted him to stop being permabanned.

Abe71 votes

I cared about every nerf, but after this one i had to write something for the first time

Kledy McKledFace3 votes

problem with malz is that his passive should never exist on any champion... they messed up so hard it has to be drastically nerf to to ground.

Hes still going to be permaban from ranked until he deals no damage or get a 60 cd on his passive its too op

yoniame1 votes

afeed, it would be better with just move speed, and a bit more of his old dot damage

Siyther1 votes

then he would have no passive dude that shit is easy as fuck to pop. use a damn aa. if u cant weave in an aa every once in a while u should seriously consider uninstalling.

Çhåryzård1 votes

I'm just happy his shield now has a longer cooldown...

lllusive Man1 votes

free banshees 2 unbeatable push spells one silence spell that punish you if you dare to step up he deserves more nerfs ...

Keepe1 votes

Your main arguments seem a bit muddled. What are you arguing for, here? Rito to stop nerfing things, good luck with that, or to bring old Malz back? Please pardon my confusion.

Abe72 votes

I dont know either...Most of all I would like old Malza back...Because this rework i knew at begining they need to nerf him hard, but this much is just too much....

Keepe1 votes

I know that his current iteration seems like a bit too much. But let's face it, Riot made a broken mess of a champion and they have no intention of making him healthy. Look at what they did to Mordekaiser. And the sad thing with Mord is they just left him to die.

It pains me to say, but Riot just does not care. They make some changes for the sake of nothing else than change. This in itself is fine, but they do not use the feedback of the change to improve on it. They force the change down your throats, laugh as they need to nerf it down, and enjoy the income they make from the playerbase.

Riot does not care.

Mataka Tek1 votes

I agree. I despise the Malzahar Nerfs. Malzahar has so many counters. Practically every top lane champ crushes him, and all the mid lane champs with high mobility only need 1 item QSS and he is totally screwed because he has no cc other than his ult.

I hate this crap.

Report for Wuju1 votes

9 months ago

flyingbaklava1 votes

You forgot a comma and added some unnecesary letters there. I think you meant: Stop, nerf Malzahar. Good idea!

flyingbaklava1 votes

Also, 650 range on a point and click ability that is his main source of damage is ridiculous. If he doesn't want to interact with his lane opponent, he doesn't need to.

Abe71 votes

Obviously you are a Yasuo player..

Calabok1 votes

K this champ is CRAZY with a K! lets git his pets under control here

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