Warwicks New Ult: Great Concept, Lacking Execution

Legal Leaguer·Jan 26, 2017·3 votes·458 views

Emphasis on the execution part. I love that it isn't point and click anymore. With the new range concept, it makes sense to have that change. But has anyone noticed how narrow the hitbox is? Like, the enemy just trickles off to the side and boom, missed ult. I've had a few games now where I would click where the carries are, and there is zero margin for error. The ult right now is better off until AFTER you already engage and need a free lockdown on the carry's face. In which case, you'd be better off with Sion or Naut or some other champ with constant CC. It isn't just me either, the handful of WW's I've seen have all missed their ults, roughly 80% of the time, and awkwardly slid into the middle of the enemy team. Congratulations Riot, you finally released a champ that wasn't totally overpowered upon release or rework. For the worst possible reason.

Salty rant over. Out

9 Comments

dakota saturnJan 26, 20171 votes

I've found ww to be really underwhelming. His kit looks really good from the descriptions and all, but he still has zero kill pressure before six, an easily countered ult (you don't even need a dash or flash to dodge it, just walk to the side), and little team utility outside of vision. He also just feels really squishy. I don't see a reason to take him over a brainless point and click champ like Vi who just presses R and gives her team a free, uncounterable kill with no effort or skill required.

His passive is also underwhelming because of how easy it is to kite him. I get he's a new champ, but genuinely strong champs are obvious from release, even with people who haven't played them before (Camille especially. You can first time her and go 18/4 or whatever)

GrymmstrikeJan 26, 20171 votes

Had a WW with 4 kills pre-6 earlier. Not me, but it is possible.

Divine WindsJan 26, 20171 votes

Any champion can have 4 kills pre 6, depends on what bonobo you're against

ChaddyFantomeJan 26, 20172 votes

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I've found ww to be really underwhelming. His kit looks really good from the descriptions and all, but he still has zero kill pressure before six, an easily countered ult (you don't even need a dash or flash to dodge it, just walk to the side), and little team utility outside of vision. He also just feels really squishy. I don't see a reason to take him over a brainless point and click champ like Vi who just presses R and gives her team a free, uncounterable kill with no effort or skill required.

His passive is also underwhelming because of how easy it is to kite him. I get he's a new champ, but genuinely strong champs are obvious from release, even with people who haven't played them before (Camille especially. You can first time her and go 18/4 or whatever)

Tell that to Yasuo, who everyone thought was weak and then was buffed for like 9 patches straight and then when people finally figured out how to play him got like 12 nerfs in a row and then has need almost nothing but nerfs since.

I say give it time. The most I hear people having issues seems mechanical. Stuff like "i can't land his Ulti" or "i can't get his Q to work".

This is all stuff people will get a hang of with experience.

CancerBasedGodJan 27, 20171 votes

I think people just need to learn him. Yesterday I played him some, then after I realized I'd been making a clear mistake. With WW's new Q and E you can dash around squishy enemies and fear them back at your team. It's not a huge CC but it should prove fairly effective. Anyway point is, I wasn't doing this first day, clearly misplaying while he's new, give people time to learn.

I also doubt people are building him right yet. I haven't had time to try it, but I think tank builds may be better than too many on hit effects. Also I'm now thinking pen boots since all WW's ability damage is magic damage.

GrymmstrikeJan 26, 20171 votes

A bad player like me cannot engage with ult. We have to save it for the middle of the fight when it is hanging on a knife's edge, then ult and lock them up long enough to kill them. I did manage to hit two engage ults, out of about 10 I tried. The other ults I did besides those were close-quarters trying to either sacrifice myself to get teammates out or trying to turn a fight.