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Kalista is a terrible character design and very weak champ

Epic Magnus··3 votes·6,471 views

I'm talking about the champ as an individual and what she's able to accomplish herself alone. Her power level in the league etc...

Passive - Nearly worthless vs nearly every champ in the game - anyone with a speed burst, dash, leap, hook or any hard CC can make this passive worthless(99% of champs). The time it takes to watch your auto-attack animation go through and then to do a(VERY SMALL) lunge makes the skill pointless to use(you can just run in a straight line faster most of the time. If you auto attack something you didn't mean to, you screw yourself over while watching your AA animation go off. This passive is just not practical.

Q - Basically works a Nidalee spear. Not a terrible skill but very bland and basic. IMO needs a lower cooldown for the damage it does(or, doesn't).

W Passive - Doesn't work at all unless her allied Oathbound champ is also AUTO-ATTACKING(not including regular skills) the same enemy. How often does this actually occur? Rarely at best. And when it does, it's nothing special.

W Active - Decent concept, works pretty good on Rift, but they can easily be destroyed and become useless by just about any player with a brain.

E - Decent skill IF you can actually land all 4 spears on someone because of your slow auto attacks before you die. Slow is decent. Don't have too much of a problem with this Skill. It's basically Twitchs' E.

R - This skill is the most interesting by far and also by far the most useful. The problem I have with it is that it doesn't do any actual damage. It's amazing for saving people or if you really have to perform an engage(ADC performing an engage?).

All in all, I don't see what makes Kalista an 'ADC'. IMO she's not an anything. She lacks a steroid boost for auto-attacks(on the same level as Ashe). I've tried several builds(ADC, AD Caster, Bruiser, Tank etc) and I find she works best when played as a Bruiser with damage. Even then, she lacks so much compared to other champs. Playing her as ADC is like playing Twitch and Ashe combined, except worse than both somehow. There's just no potential in her. She doesn't have the damage to carry the team(because of how her skills work mostly), so that leaves her as sort of a utility support champ with a bit of damage. I paid 7800 for this BITCH and it wasn't worth it(considering a refund, even though I know I shouldn't). So yeah, fuck this champ.

Also, don't give me that "she's new", "you just don't know how to build/play her" crap. I know how to play every champ in this game and have no problems like this.

34 Comments

Maximum Zilean3 votes

She is teamwork focused. As in not a good solo que pick.

Simple as that.

Malix Farwin3 votes

I can all but guarantee that she will see LCS play next year and when she does, everyone will try to jump on the ype train for her

Leblancs Boob3 votes

Kalista is anything but weak...

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

You say that, and you're still Silver 1. And second, no one asks you at gunpoint to buy Kalista off the store at a 7800ip instead of waiting for the 6300ip discount price.

Epic Magnus1 votes

I stopped playing Ranked because it's bullshit. I'm much better than Silver 1 and either way, that has nothing to do with if I'm right or wrong.

Maximum Zilean4 votes

I stopped playing Ranked because it's bullshit. I'm much better than Silver 1 and either way, that has nothing to do with if I'm right or wrong.

With that kind of attitude, no you aren't.

Epic Magnus1 votes

Attitude has NOTHING to do with it. What a friggin sheep.

MrGoldTech3 votes

If you are much better than silver 1, then why are you silver 1?

mind = blown

Epic Magnus2 votes

If only your stupid ass could read.

Onegarion2 votes

If you were bette ryou would improve. Its a simple as that and move up. No other thing can be said.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

But that amount of lost Dominion & Twisted Treeline games hurts my eyes.

But still, no matter what you think of Kalista, she still a pretty decent ADC. Even if you say "i know how to use her, she is a suckish champ", there will always be other people who are actually better than you. Here are the list of how her moves are considered okay imo:

Passive: A pretty good kiting ability. Also quite suitable when enemies just dives onto you and seeing you jumping backward while attacking. Lucian can't do that.

Q- Just a Nidale spear, although it damages as much as being near or far. Seen a number of Kalista using that last-hit Q move from minions onto me a lot of time.

W- I dunno what's good about this. For all I know, it is a pretty good scouting ability. But the problem with it is that it doesn't proc the Relic Shield.

E- A Twitch's E combined with slows. A little too punishing since it can infinitely stacks.

R- Should be used as an engaging move in teamfights or skirmishes. When you toss your support/jungler onto a group, yes it will cause an airborne, and then your supp/jungler wil do the rest of the CC. That's one reason why Kalista's ult doesn't really deserve to deal any damage.

Epic Magnus1 votes

Exactly, Kalista is the ONLY champ I can consistently lose with. Let me play the same amount of games with Yi, Fizz, Darius or LeBlanc. Nearly every game will be a win.

CreationFlaw1 votes

Exactly, Kalista is the ONLY champ I can consistently lose with. Let me play the same amount of games with Yi, Fizz, Darius or LeBlanc. Nearly every game will be a win.

Honestly, the way you're complaining, you probably need to be below silver 1, but if you play champions like Fizz, Yi, and Darius all the time and say you will almost always win, well obviously. They're not exactly hard champions for the effect they have, not to mention you have no pride. If you lose lane as Darius, then please pack up your bags and /thread this.

Mythstic2 votes

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Epic Magnus1 votes

So your opinion means next to nothing...

Hinro Honato2 votes

So you know how to play every champ? That's nice. So does everyone else in the game. Right click then hit q,w,e, and r from time to time. There you go. You can now play every champion in the game. You're welcome everyone.

Passive: Do you know what kiting is? Pretty important thing to learn if you want to play a marksman.

Q: Taking out half a wave with one spear seems pretty good to me.

W: Kalista requires teamwork. It seems you're unable to use such a thing and as such her w passive is wasted on you. As for the active, Free wards. How is this a bad thing?

E: You do know attack speed items exist right? It doesn't sound like you do. It's basically a twitch expunge if it had a might higher limit and the stacks were transferable. Rend is a far better skill over expunge.

R: It's a malphite ult minus the damage. It's a pretty substantial knockup and kalista is also one of the few marksmen that can engage a fight. Very teamwork reliant though.

Um...Are you trying to say twitch is bad? It sounds like that is what you're trying to say. sorry, but what? Simple question, how much crazy do you need to say such a thing?

Also if you want to refund her then refund her. That's up to you. learning how to use a champion requires more than know how to play the game.

Fed by Snu Snu2 votes

And it's what, week 1?

Ye, let me remind you who else gave that impression to the community: Yasuo

No kalista buffs until we get a clear view of her potential, thanks.

Dayblazer2 votes

because your general demeanor is crappy no one even wants to talk to you. Plus its simply that any point brought forth by a silver 1 is immediately crap and knows nothing, and that you'd just devolve to name calling anyways why would people bother?

Epic Magnus1 votes

because your general demeanor is crappy no one even wants to talk to you. Plus its simply that any point brought forth by a silver 1 is immediately crap and knows nothing, and that you'd just devolve to name calling anyways why would people bother?

That's because everyone here are little babies that can't handle a real conversation. Didn't call anyone a specific name so don't know what you're talking about either.

IceKingChernobog2 votes

Kalista is anything but weak

CreationFlaw2 votes

Also, when people offer their opinions, you just bitch about how they're wrong without thinking about it, cause you're probably a ragey sixteen year old that's barely different then a twelve year old, so get your shit together. Want to know why she's so popular? One, any decent Kalista can dodge the poke of the opposing ADC, she can also infinitely kite andbody like Garen, Nasus, Darius, Tryndamere, the list goes on.Hhm, she has an aoe knockup on a pretty decent cooldown as well as being able to set up a cc chain if she has a heavy tank cc support.

Uhm, she has constant wards for her Mana Regen level, if you manage properly, so you don't have to spend 500 gold a game buying wards for map control. Also, her E is infinitely stacking, so it has an infinity amount of damage, except it's possible to get 2.5 stacks a fucking second if you build a lot of attack speed, not to mention near infinite mobility if you can control it. Sure, if somebody like Rengar, Khazix, or some other super burst jumps on her, she's going to fucking die. Just like how late game veigar can make a different AP carry like Ahri completely useless just by an R.

Epic Magnus1 votes

Also, when people offer their opinions, you just bitch about how they're wrong without thinking about it, cause you're probably a ragey sixteen year old that's barely different then a twelve year old, so get your shit together. Want to know why she's so popular? One, any decent Kalista can dodge the poke of the opposing ADC, she can also infinitely kite andbody like Garen, Nasus, Darius, Tryndamere, the list goes on.Hhm, she has an aoe knockup on a pretty decent cooldown as well as being able to set up a cc chain if she has a heavy tank cc support.

Uhm, she has constant wards for her Mana Regen level, if you manage properly, so you don't have to spend 500 gold a game buying wards for map control. Also, her E is infinitely stacking, so it has an infinity amount of damage, except it's possible to get 2.5 stacks a fucking second if you build a lot of attack speed, not to mention near infinite mobility if you can control it. Sure, if somebody like Rengar, Khazix, or some other super burst jumps on her, she's going to fucking die. Just like how late game veigar can make a different AP carry like Ahri completely useless just by an R.

Ur a silver 4 noob u cant say shit.

Miraweave1 votes

Also, when people offer their opinions, you just bitch about how they're wrong without thinking about it, cause you're probably a ragey sixteen year old that's barely different then a twelve year old, so get your shit together. Want to know why she's so popular? One, any decent Kalista can dodge the poke of the opposing ADC, she can also infinitely kite andbody like Garen, Nasus, Darius, Tryndamere, the list goes on.Hhm, she has an aoe knockup on a pretty decent cooldown as well as being able to set up a cc chain if she has a heavy tank cc support.

Uhm, she has constant wards for her Mana Regen level, if you manage properly, so you don't have to spend 500 gold a game buying wards for map control. Also, her E is infinitely stacking, so it has an infinity amount of damage, except it's possible to get 2.5 stacks a fucking second if you build a lot of attack speed, not to mention near infinite mobility if you can control it. Sure, if somebody like Rengar, Khazix, or some other super burst jumps on her, she's going to fucking die. Just like how late game veigar can make a different AP carry like Ahri completely useless just by an R.

Ur a silver 4 noob u cant say shit.

Tough talk from a silver 1 0 lp

Epic Magnus1 votes

Also, when people offer their opinions, you just bitch about how they're wrong without thinking about it, cause you're probably a ragey sixteen year old that's barely different then a twelve year old, so get your shit together. Want to know why she's so popular? One, any decent Kalista can dodge the poke of the opposing ADC, she can also infinitely kite andbody like Garen, Nasus, Darius, Tryndamere, the list goes on.Hhm, she has an aoe knockup on a pretty decent cooldown as well as being able to set up a cc chain if she has a heavy tank cc support.

Uhm, she has constant wards for her Mana Regen level, if you manage properly, so you don't have to spend 500 gold a game buying wards for map control. Also, her E is infinitely stacking, so it has an infinity amount of damage, except it's possible to get 2.5 stacks a fucking second if you build a lot of attack speed, not to mention near infinite mobility if you can control it. Sure, if somebody like Rengar, Khazix, or some other super burst jumps on her, she's going to fucking die. Just like how late game veigar can make a different AP carry like Ahri completely useless just by an R.

Ur a silver 4 noob u cant say shit.

Tough talk from a silver 1 0 lp

I'm good enough to be in the NBA but I didn't want to join it for other reasons, does that mean I'm a horrible player? Get some fuckin logic son.

Miraweave1 votes

Also, when people offer their opinions, you just bitch about how they're wrong without thinking about it, cause you're probably a ragey sixteen year old that's barely different then a twelve year old, so get your shit together. Want to know why she's so popular? One, any decent Kalista can dodge the poke of the opposing ADC, she can also infinitely kite andbody like Garen, Nasus, Darius, Tryndamere, the list goes on.Hhm, she has an aoe knockup on a pretty decent cooldown as well as being able to set up a cc chain if she has a heavy tank cc support.

Uhm, she has constant wards for her Mana Regen level, if you manage properly, so you don't have to spend 500 gold a game buying wards for map control. Also, her E is infinitely stacking, so it has an infinity amount of damage, except it's possible to get 2.5 stacks a fucking second if you build a lot of attack speed, not to mention near infinite mobility if you can control it. Sure, if somebody like Rengar, Khazix, or some other super burst jumps on her, she's going to fucking die. Just like how late game veigar can make a different AP carry like Ahri completely useless just by an R.

Ur a silver 4 noob u cant say shit.

Tough talk from a silver 1 0 lp

I'm good enough to be in the NBA but I didn't want to join it for other reasons, does that mean I'm a horrible player? Get some fuckin logic son.

What? Like actually what are you trying to say? You go and insult someone else's rank, then I insult yours (silver is shit tier) and you get all buttmad and start talking about basketball.

But yeah, if you think Kalista is in any way not overpowered, you're bad.

Yawnli1 votes

Oh look, we transitioned from extremely overpowered to weak. I wonder how it will go next week

Epic Magnus1 votes

Let me know who you can beat 1v1 as Kalista is what I'm saying. No. One.

Miraweave2 votes

Let me know who you can beat 1v1 as Kalista is what I'm saying. No. One.

I killed a 8/2 Warwick as Kalista while I was 0/3, only taking damage twice. git gud

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

no meele champ can touch her if she's well played. all she needs is item 3006 +item 3140 and she can kite them all.

Epic Magnus1 votes

It's funny how no one can disprove my points. They just get mad and say that I'm bad. Such is the LoL community - trolling 12 year olds. It's also funny how people think that every champ in this game is COMPLETELY balanced and if people can't do good with them, it's THEIR fault. Biggest fucking joke I've ever seen. If idiots think this game is at all balanced they are sorely mistaken.

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