Was just in a game when our top, at 12-15 min decided to just run at their team 1v5. over and over again. saying we fed them early game (when we were in fact in the lead in towers and kills). So sad that 1 person can really just cost you a game. not even the kills he was giving the other team but since he was always doing that, it means it was always a 4v5.
Vistha Kai46 votesHate how 1 bad person can break a team, but 1 above average person isn't enough to win either.
Meep Man2 votes[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VoTAJyAO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-06-19T21:42:44.081+0000)
Hate how 1 bad person can break a team, but 1 above average person isn't enough to win either.
Unless you are someone the board hates, which is why they hate them. Funny how that is huh? Katarina, Riven, and maybe a good LeBlanc can solo carry for the right team, yet you say one person should do that.
Vistha Kai5 votesLeBlanc can't carry for shit. Riven needs to go like 5/0 in lane to do so.
Katarina on the other hand... 0/10 then Pentakill.
Mylon Requiem1 votes
My ranked games of 26/0 and 23/0 in Silver/Gold elo say otherwise.
ponkzy1 votesi went 19/4 on leblanc and then just got annie ulted every teamfight. kinda impossible to carry when you're playing a champ that blows up late game to support annie
Mylon Requiem1 votesThere's this thing called an "outplay". It involves breaking from standard decision-making and using mind-games and strategy to prevail over just being risk-averse.
What do I do against an Annie Mid/Support who stays relevant the whole game due to the stun? Build Mercury Treads and bait out the stun with W (which is now a bit harder thanks to the W nerfs to LeBlanc, but still).
The number of Annies I have forced to airball the Tibbers is insane.
ponkzy1 votesno she just holds onto ult until i go in. how can you outplay a annie ult unless you buy a qss? with the missle speed you can actually hit people mid w now with tibbers easily
Mylon Requiem1 votesWell, as LeBlanc, you really should be trying to avoid front-line confrontation and look for specific angles or flanks to engage. Pretty much what it comes down to when playing against point-and-click CC is just waiting for the opportune moment when they eventually are forced to use their crowd-control on something other than you (perhaps your AD or frontline).
I don't really find Annie to be particularly difficult to play against as LeBlanc during skirmishes/teamfights because her engage pattern is so linear and obvious, and can actually be avoided and juked, along with the follow-up damage. If she tries to W/R you, then there's a chance she can miss since you can avoid it with Distortion. If she Q's you, just get enough distance (or damage) on her and make the stun irrelevant.
Don't telegraph what you're doing as LeBlanc so much and you'll find that playing to her strength (being tricky and deceptive, as her character suggests) will benefit you across the board.
Vistha Kai1 votesAyy, Silver ELO.
I've spent there about 3 days this season after provisionals.
Went 10/0/10 with mid Nami and won the game in 18 minutes. Clearly OP.
Mylon Requiem1 votesYeah, I'm not sure why the system decided it made sense to put me in Silver I when prior to playing ranked I was being matched with only Platinums and Diamonds in normals.
Vistha Kai1 votesBecause normals and ranked are completely separated queues.
As is every 30 level can play aganist a Challenger in normals. Most of the time people dedicate their time to one queue, so a person that didn't play normals for a year can be ranked Diamond, but have "Bronze" MMR in normal queue.
Chaotic Reks7 votes"just carry yourself out of bronze" lol
straight4free12 votes[{quoted}](name=NyX Reks,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VoTAJyAO,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2015-06-20T01:29:53.639+0000)
"just carry yourself out of bronze" lol
You totally can...
BetaDude4012 votesOh I don't disagree. It's probably possible.
It's just I'd rather do a cartwheel through those 20 miles of barbed wire instead. It would be a lot less excruciating and take a lot less time.
Remlap12232 votesOh I don't disagree. It's probably possible.
It's just I'd rather do a cartwheel through those 20 miles of barbed wire instead. It would be a lot less excruciating and take a lot less time.
I would sooner listen to all of these champions laughs synced up on repeat for twenty minutes than go back to solo queue.
BetaDude401 votesI'd rather let piss all over me every night for the rest of my life than go back into solo queue.
Communist Toast3 votesI would sooner listen to all of these champions laughs synced up on repeat for twenty minutes than go back to solo queue.
eh, I so far did carry myself out of bronze a long time ago. getting out of bronze solo queue wasn't too bad
LordGeovanni1 votesit wasnt but the community now and then changed from last minute come backs to quit at 20 if we dont dominate early game and some times quit anyway its basically a game of who quits first now
ThatWillDoNoob1 votesI did it. From bronze 5 to Silver 3 in solo queue in the past 2 or 3 months and still climbing. Its hard and can get frustrating, ask my three broken mice and two keyboards (don't worry they where cheep), but its possible.
BetaDude401 votesOh I know it's possible. I never denied that. It's just that due to the toxic atmosphere, high quantity of trolls, and bullshit promo system, I'd rather not even bother with ranked. I play this game casually; I don't intend on joining any LCS team anytime soon.
I Main Swain1 votesonly if you are way, way better than the people you are playing with. enough so that you can 1 man carry, which is pretty freaking ridiculously hard most of the time.
Vellich0r1 votesPossible, yes. Time consuming, annoying, and just plain excruciating? Hell yes. I have college, a job, and a girlfriend to take care of, how the hell am I gonna spend the 100+ games it takes to be lucky enough to finally get from bronze into a higher tier? And that's assuming you are winning half of them, which is surprisingly difficult on the lower end of solo queue. I have 5 game win streaks, but all it takes is a couple bad games to ruin a promo series. And when you've been in promos 6 times on the back of great win streaks where you carried everyone or had decent teammates but then got to the series and had a couple of games where someone fucked you over or the other team was just better than yours it gets pretty frustrating. And don't even get me started on trying to carry through when you favor using an unpopular pick. No matter how good you are there is a 98% higher chance that someone decides to troll just because the strongest pick in a situation is not considered a normal pick (No matter how many times you have used that pick to have perfect games because you are just that good.) I have had more easy wins lost because someone was mad and decided to troll than I have had games won because an enemy player AFKed or anything like that. Hell, I've even had someone get mad and sit AFK in base when they could easily have won us the game by saving the nexus tower and nexus until our TP could respawn and tp into their base and auto the nexus twice to win. its ridiculous how much more difficult it is to play on the lower end, how much more FRUSTRATING it is. Sadly, we just kinda have to deal with the bullshittery, but that doesn't make it any more ridiculous.
QiÿanaReaves1 votesI'm pretty sure, punctuality is not a strong point with you.
Vistha Kai1 votesReks, plz. Bronze is an easy mode.
Sammystorm1 votesThis isn't true. A above average person can usually make a game. However a troll can completely negate that good person.
Akesgeroth1 voteshttp://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1860780051/35861909?tab=overview
Sometimes it's enough. But yeah, we're far from DotA where you can carry a team of idiots to victory.
Abyssphere1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VoTAJyAO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-06-19T21:42:44.081+0000)
Hate how 1 bad person can break a team, but 1 above average person isn't enough to win either.
Well that wouldn't make sense. One person going 0/10 is always going to have a bigger impact than an "above average" person but that's because they're not equally bad or good. You're saying a raging feeder/genuinely horrendously bad person being able to lose a game with 4 decent teammates should mean someone being a bit better than everyone else should be able to carry 4 subpar teammates and if that was the case you'd have some serious imbalance in how snowbally champions are.
The comparable thing to an above average person is a person who's not great and a person who's not great never loses a game alone, just like an above average person can't win one alone. It's the same with the more extreme examples - a person who'll run into the enemy team every time they respawn for 20 minutes can absolutely lose a game no matter how well everyone else does, but a Diamond smurf in Bronze can just as easily carry a game 1v5.
IMO it evens out.
5512025 votes4v6*
Dunkrius2g4 votesTFW when you try to report him and then you see that he played 10 more matches after that.
Cloud Potato4 votesIt's a team game. Saying that one player doing poorly costs the game is just as pointless as saying that there's an equal chance of the enemy team having someone break their team as well.
Communist Toast1 votes[{quoted}](name=Cloud Potato,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VoTAJyAO,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-06-20T03:39:28.926+0000)
It's a team game. Saying that one player doing poorly costs the game is just as pointless as saying that there's an equal chance of the enemy team having someone break their team as well.
a team game should be that. a team. but in this case 1 person defines your team of 5? idk how that makes logical sense. 2-3 people doing bad, I understand that, that's ~half your team.
High52 votesTrue. Be a good player though and it'll even out. Afks are just an unfortunate part of the game.
DanofDemacia2 votesDont give them a reason to do it then?
The Lexer2 votesMore proof that Riot's ranking system is garbage.
chipndip11 votesI literally had four games IN A ROW where my loss could be attributed entirely to 1-2 people today. It's NOT fun in the slightest.
I don't think I should auto-win just because I win lane. I think I shouldn't have team mates go 0/5/0 by 15 minutes 4 games in a row. It's not fair and it's like making me climb a mountain with bricks chained to my arms and legs. I can only do so much before the depression and exhaustion of having my team mates fail me time and time again starts eating at my own play.
I know I'm not always perfect myself, but sometimes it's ridiculous.
D1rtFarmer1 votestoo true... i feel my gameplay and teamwork/decision making has suffered.
Onimus Terlain1 votesWhat separates the good from the great is how you manage yourself and your team after someone has gone toxic.
LordGeovanni1 voteshave you tried helping the person and sticking with them rather than flaming and raging. cause 4v5 was never hard it only takes about 3 people with balanced builds to defend towers and you can have the other split push. but everyone want to build straight damage so you get what you pay for
Communist Toast1 voteshave you tried helping the person and sticking with them rather than flaming and raging. cause 4v5 was never hard it only takes about 3 people with balanced builds to defend towers and you can have the other split push. but everyone want to build straight damage so you get what you pay for
I have no idea what you are even talking about. no one said anything about building damage? I usually always build tank, since I top/jg/supp most of the time. /shrugs
LordGeovanni1 votesi suggested helping and i sugested split pushing rather that trying to but heads with a team you already consider to be fed thats not what i said its what you did if you say some one feeding that means some one else is fed
Communist Toast1 votesi suggested helping and i sugested split pushing rather that trying to but heads with a team you already consider to be fed thats not what i said its what you did if you say some one feeding that means some one else is fed
tbh I have no idea what you are saying half the time
LordGeovanni1 votesits not that people badly break a game its that people arnt smart enough to play around having people who cant do anything technically there is an entire position centered around people doing nothing but being there the whole game and its what most people expect. so every game is 4 v 5 unless morg or lux bot
Sir Fuzzi1 votesAll you can do is try your best not to let it kill the mood. They're doing it just to do that; at least go down fighting it.
Remikai1 votesThis is why i play ARAM and the Hexikill exclusively... It's less focused on 1 person to make or break.
Bring back hexikill permanently!! Please?
Meeks0111 votesI propose a vote to kick system where 4 everyone else votes to kick him and get him replaced by someone else in queue.
TotalJerk1 votesIn such a teamwork focused game it's a given that solo matchmaking would be shit. Play 5s and never deal with trolls and feeders again.
