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@Riot: Context on MF Q Changes?

Sodaman64··3 votes·861 views

I don't want to get in to why I despise this change so much, and this isn't a post to discuss how op/balanced MF is. But I would like to know why this change is being tested, if one of the Riot balance team members would be willing to discuss.

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Darth Pixy Misa3 votes

The sad thing is that Riot is nerfing MF, and eventually they are going to nerf leathality, the real problem. When they nerf leathality MF will get hit again and riot will not compensate MF at all. Worse this nerf dumbs down MF. What is wrong with being rewarded for using the Q correctly? How many times have you seen ppl actually get the bounce to work?

MF is semi immobile since she doesnt have a dash. IN 2017 how does MF fit the role as a lane bully that counters hyper scaling champs like Vayne Now? With the buffs to BOTRK expect Vayne to get stronger, but MF will be missing tools to counter this threat.

SaltyKracka1 votes

Q2 chunking champs to half health is stupid af.

Unironic SJW3 votes

So is mage bot laners 100-0ing the enemy AD with just a Spellthiefs but hey, double standards.

SaltyKracka1 votes

Hey, look at that argument I wasn't fucking making! What an amazing argument it must be, strung up for you to light on fire! Somebody must have put an awful lot of thought and time into making that argument! Wasn't me, though. Wonder who.

Unironic SJW1 votes

The key word is "double standards" - basically some champ classes are more equal than others when it comes to Rito balance.

Furor Nexis1 votes

I can answer that, and you should know the answer as well. With just a Youmuu's, the Double-Up Bonus can easily half HP an enemy laner when done correctly. I've seen it being done, and as a frequent MF player ( I use her to counter Varus and Jhin) it's easily the biggest reasons as to why I can dominate lane.

Unironic SJW2 votes

it's also her only real trading tool since, you know, her base stats are shit, especially her base AD

Furor Nexis2 votes

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it's also her only real trading tool since, you know, her base stats are shit, especially her base AD

Well playing MF has always been about playing smart, and when to use her Q to get the best out of it. The choices really weren't that easy to be fair, either nerf her q or nerf her ult. It's nerfing her early, but her late-game can still be considered decently powerful once she has more than just youmuu's and bc. Although I'm not too fond of it either. I'd say maybe Double Up could have had it's damaged reduced by maybe 1/3'rd of it's extra damage and it'd be fine.

Unironic SJW2 votes

We could have at least seen if nerfing literally every item she commonly builds could have brought her in line (Ghostblade nerf, EON nerf which was making her ulting too safe, BC nerf (Phage Kindlegem at 20 minutes rofl), LDR nerf but nah, we gotta Olaf her just to be sure.

Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votes

I don't think this is the correct or a good way to nerf MF. Q-ing a low health minion is literally one of the only versions of skill-expression in her kit.

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