http://prntscr.com/ltmp5v This is my match history and op gg mmr. Im getting +12/13 lp and loosing 26 or more and i cant understand why. Im diamond 3 and i have climbed all the way from silver and this never happened to me before. Thoughts?
Sukishoo3 votesI think there are still some iffy gain/losses due to the ranked changes. Riot said they fixed it but I dont think its quite there yet.
Modmichaelchan1 votesWhat icon is that btw?
Bobloser35551 votesfrom Nexus Blitz
Sukishoo1 votesWhat icon is that btw?
For the game it's: Recall Icon from Nexus Blitz
for BEK it's: GG Miss Fortune
Modmichaelchan1 votesFor the game it's: Recall Icon from Nexus Blitz
Thanks
TheGoldenKim2 votesSame. I would win like 16-17lp but lose 22-27lp. Riot is apparently monitoring it.
lAK47l1 votesSame. I would win like 16-17lp but lose 22-27lp. Riot is apparently monitoring it.
What do you think? Should i request a ticket because this is happening for second day and i cant climb like that. I know its preseason but i like to climb :D
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What do you think? Should i request a ticket because this is happening for second day and i cant climb like that. I know its preseason but i like to climb :D
you can create a ticket. but all I know is riot is monitoring it and that's all. so we just gotta wait until they fix it.
Tegash2 votesThere's a glut of players in Diamond 3 and 4, boosted or otherwise, so climbing in that section is very hard.
If you can get through it, your LP gains should rise again when you hit D1.
lAK47l1 votesThere's a glut of players in Diamond 3 and 4, boosted or otherwise, so climbing in that section is very hard.
If you can get through it, your LP gains should rise again when you hit D1.
How am i suppose to hit D1 when i win 13 lp no matter what and lose 20+?
Tegash1 votesIt's definitely a challenge. There's a reason why most would-be pros stop at this point.
The main thing to focus on is playing only 1-2 games per day. That minimizes losses and increases gains.
Titanium702 votesYou're climbing to fast for your MMR to catch up. Keep playing, dodge a promo or two and your MMR is fixed. ^^
MMR does not increase not as fast as your rank if you keep winning. MMR does not decrease as fast as your Rank if you keep loosing.
It's kinda annoying since Rank is just a visual gimmick and you still get matched with those D5 dudes based on your MMR despite beeing visually above that already but.. can't be helped. ^^'
lAK47l1 votesYou're climbing to fast for your MMR to catch up. Keep playing, dodge a promo or two and your MMR is fixed. ^^
MMR does not increase not as fast as your rank if you keep winning. MMR does not decrease as fast as your Rank if you keep loosing.
It's kinda annoying since Rank is just a visual gimmick and you still get matched with those D5 dudes based on your MMR despite beeing visually above that already but.. can't be helped. ^^'
Yeah, but according to OP.GG my MMR i d2 and im d3.
Pika Fox1 votesOP.gg isnt remotely accurate.
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OP.gg isnt remotely accurate.
As you can see my match history i dont have many loses for my MMR to be that shitty. I just lost a game and lost 24lp and previously had 2 wins and got 11/12 lp each.
Titanium702 votesAs I already told you. MMR doesnt increase at the same speed as you Rank does.
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You start at 2000MMR(P1). Now you win nonstop. Now you're D1. Problem Your MMR is still D3. And you still get matched with people at D3. The system showing you you're D1 means nothing, it's just a visual gimmick that alters your LP gains/losses in a way that your visual rank roughly matches your actual rank. And this system fails the second you do something not calculated: Win-streaks, Loss-streaks, Promo-Dodges, DuoQing to some degree.
By decreasing your LP/Win, increasing your -LP/Loss the system tries to let your MMR catch Up with your Rank.
Your Rank progress gets slowed down - your MMR growth per win is unchanged (since it never changes).
lAK47l1 votesAs I already told you. MMR doesnt increase at the same speed as you Rank does.
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You start at 2000MMR(P1). Now you win nonstop. Now you're D1. Problem Your MMR is still D3. And you still get matched with people at D3. The system showing you you're D1 means nothing, it's just a visual gimmick that alters your LP gains/losses in a way that your visual rank roughly matches your actual rank. And this system fails the second you do something not calculated: Win-streaks, Loss-streaks, Promo-Dodges, DuoQing to some degree.
By decreasing your LP/Win, increasing your -LP/Loss the system tries to let your MMR catch Up with your Rank.
Your Rank progress gets slowed down - your MMR growth per win is unchanged (since it never changes).
Ok so what can i do because i played like 10 games and got to d3 50 lp then lost 3 games (not even in a row) and fell in d4. This is way beyond broken.
Titanium702 votesThe best thing to fix this:
Next time when you hit your D3 Promos - win one game, than Qdodge the next. This will end your Promo. but you still went +3 in terms of W/L.
Back to 80LP, win another - 95LP, win another - back to Promo, win another, - Now Qdodge again.
Now you have won 6 more games while still being at the exact same rank. Now your MMR will be alot better!
lAK47l1 votesThe best thing to fix this:
Next time when you hit your D3 Promos - win one game, than Qdodge the next. This will end your Promo. but you still went +3 in terms of W/L.
Back to 80LP, win another - 95LP, win another - back to Promo, win another, - Now Qdodge again.
Now you have won 6 more games while still being at the exact same rank. Now your MMR will be alot better!
I will try it but its kinda hard to get in promos when i get +12/13 per game and lose like 25. In my opinion this is bullsh*t.
ARGthe1st2 votesWait... The same thing is happening to me and Im in Silver 2
monsterartist2 votesSame here, Silver 5 before the patch and earning 17-20 LP, now get 12 on wins and lose 20 on losses.
lAK47l1 votesSame here, Silver 5 before the patch and earning 17-20 LP, now get 12 on wins and lose 20 on losses.
Maybe because they removed division 5 and moved the players to division 4 and it fcked our MMR or something. But still as u can see my match history i got so many wins and yeah.
ORlANNAGRANDE2 votesBack in Season 5 i fell from diamond 3 all the way to plat 5. It gave me 6 per win and - 28 per loss...SOMEHOW i made it back to diamond
Bobloser35551 votesHow long were you in silver?
lAK47l1 votesHow long were you in silver?
I was silver 3 seasons ago. I meant that i have climbed a lot and played a lot of game by saying i was silver.
Bobloser35551 votesOk, Im asking cause if you have a sudden growth spurt then Riot will think you are still at your old elo but just had some lucky games...if you keep up winning then they Riot will say "ok this guy really has improved lets give him more lp for a win". But I dont know if that is the case for you.
lAK47l1 votesOk, Im asking cause if you have a sudden growth spurt then Riot will think you are still at your old elo but just had some lucky games...if you keep up winning then they Riot will say "ok this guy really has improved lets give him more lp for a win". But I dont know if that is the case for you.
Actually my lp growth was decaying when i was winning. I won 2 games in a row and got 15 each then won 2 more and got like 14 each and now im getting 13. And im loosing 20+ lp no matter what.
Bobloser35552 votesperhaps its a bug, but if you been lower tier for a long time the game will assume you are still that level until you win enough games. This is what happened to me because I went from S3 to S5 then stayed there for a while and then try hard and got back to S4 now all of a sudden after I got out from S5 it gave me less than 20lp for a win whilst before it it was 20 lp or more per win, but the game gave me lower mmr because I stayed at S5 for too long and it assumed I am S5 skill.
In your case I dont know.
lAK47l1 votesperhaps its a bug, but if you been lower tier for a long time the game will assume you are still that level until you win enough games. This is what happened to me because I went from S3 to S5 then stayed there for a while and then try hard and got back to S4 now all of a sudden after I got out from S5 it gave me less than 20lp for a win whilst before it it was 20 lp or more per win, but the game gave me lower mmr because I stayed at S5 for too long and it assumed I am S5 skill.
In your case I dont know.
Yeah probably a bug... Before preseason my lp gain/loss was normal. I won like 10 games in a row and LP gain was lower than the first won game of the streak.
MegaSpaceJX1 votesIts preseason so your mmr doesn't go up as fast as during normal season.
lAK47l1 votesPlease upvote this so more people can see the bullshit system.
lAK47l1 votesUPDATE: I won some more games and my gain fell to 12 LP..... LMAO
JungleMowgli1 votesI think there is a problem with division five player's mmr at all ranks. See my post about gold five. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/kIR8R42K-theres-something-really-wrong-with-the-mmr-system-since-ranked-changes
lAK47l1 votesI think there is a problem with division five player's mmr at all ranks. See my post about gold five. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/kIR8R42K-theres-something-really-wrong-with-the-mmr-system-since-ranked-changes
Im d3 dude.
JungleMowgli1 votesOh I saw: "Shrike9800 (NA) I was D5 prior to the changes last patch." And you said "I was diamond 5 before preseason." Anyway there's definitely something fucked up with mmr since ranked changes.
I was D5 prior to the changes last patch, my win-rate over the past 21 games is 19%, and the game feels actually unplayable now. I gain absolute nothing and lose 26+ every single game. Game used to be fun to play but over the years just seems more and more of a hassle and unrewarding system. My current MMR sticks me with people who intentionally feed, afk the game, or just flame everyone for no reason while they themselves play bad. I tried to spread more positivity in my games and tell people good job, and other things when they do well. But positivity simply means nothing in this game it feels. People tilt off of the silliest things and force lose your team the game.
lAK47l1 votesI was D5 prior to the changes last patch, my win-rate over the past 21 games is 19%, and the game feels actually unplayable now. I gain absolute nothing and lose 26+ every single game. Game used to be fun to play but over the years just seems more and more of a hassle and unrewarding system. My current MMR sticks me with people who intentionally feed, afk the game, or just flame everyone for no reason while they themselves play bad. I tried to spread more positivity in my games and tell people good job, and other things when they do well. But positivity simply means nothing in this game it feels. People tilt off of the silliest things and force lose your team the game.
Feel bad for you but my problem is that im winning and im getting less lp.
