maokai too weak

Maokai's one of the champions who has a large impact in LCS and gets nerfed because of it.

hes garbage. cooldowns are high. mana costs are high. i have level 5 mastery with him. your better off playing him as an ap mage. because you can easily land his combo. and his scaling is pretty good. especially his W. does a lot of damage. with a lot of ap. but then again thats just for fun.. hes not good at all. again. i run out of mana with him stupid quick. and his passive. usually bad because i get harassed while proccing it and hes not really. strong at 1v1s.

Sejuani, Sion, and Maokai are all part of those super great tank champs that just got overnerfed. Gragas getting buffed is a good sign of things to come though.

All tanks are pretty weak right now with exceptions of like Tahm and Mundo cause of their broken skills. Even as Braum I get pretty bad damage on me sometimes.

They should increase his attack range to 175 so he can proc passive easier then reduce his mana cost on q and increase his health and armor per level so he can tank better late game

He should have received the mana regen buffs that other mages got. He's one of the most mana dependent top laners in the game.

True.Because Malp,Poppy,Naut,Sion are good but Mao is too weak.Ult nerf must reverted.

This is hilarious.

He's totally freelo you know. Go on, buff him.

Maokai hasn't been nerfed since 5.22, though. He's not as overbearing as when top Maokai became a thing, but he's still quite good, especially with the Grasp of the Undying mastery.

I love xmas tree mao. This is whining. He's just fallen out of the meta. He'll be back. He was a stupid safe pick in soloq and lcs for a long time.

IDK but somebody claimed he was going to troll us by picking Maokai top one game.

What's a Maokai

His passive sucks, his mana sucks, and he ultimately doesn't scale fast enough to matter anymore.

i play ap maokai mid thats fun :D, full tank maokai feels weak

i do not think maokai is weak it was pretty muc his ult was given an actual cooldown

it went from unlimited duration to 10 seconds max

and it like a 20 second cooldown

which is now something like 40

and his lane sustain also got a small nerf if i remember correctly although not so much where it is no longer a factor.

The damage reduction hurt alot of caster champions as by the time maokai got his ult most ppl relies on level scaling rather than items which made him a bit opressive in the midgame if he ever had a decent laningfase. You simply could not kill anyone covered by maokai's ultimate which was pertty much up every fight.

He is certainly not the strongest champion right now but he is also not weak. He still has that powerfull ultimate just has to make a decision now of when to use it. it still has alot of uptime.

His base damages are all still good And he has an untargetbility taggen on a point and click root a mini wardbomb that chase ppl around and slows them and a low cd knockback/slow

He also has some really good items and masteries he can use atm

I think he is bit underrated right now.

The only buff I will love on him right now is MR scaling.

I think his mana costs,mana pool etc. needs adjustments considering how top laners nowaday use little to no mana. Increasing his attack range to 175 might be a good thing.

What i miss is base damage on his W.It REALLY hurts.Also it would give jungle maokai if that's still a thing a needed buff. Anyway i think he is fine.However current toplaners are just ridiculous to even consider him a viable pick.

Maokai's problem is that his mana costs are actually too high to allow him to farm decently to get to late game. If he get to late game, he is still really scary...the problem is that he is never going to get to that point against the new meta top lane where there are champs with long range AA or spammable long range tools

The nerfs were deserved at the time because in that meta he was incredibly strong, now that meta has changed, Maokai need slight help...it actually is fair to think to gatee his power by high mana costs that make more difficult for him to stay in lane and thus delay his scaling, He probably just need a smaller mana cost on ulti now that isn't any more super spammable because of CD nerfs (and thus was gated by mana costs instead) and slighlty beter mana regen or slighlty lower W mana cost and he is fine

Yeah he is weak but I doubt anyone misses laning vs him....no interaction laning. He just chills and throws his saplings and if you try to fight him he knocks you up and walks away.

Obviously I rather play vs him than Fiora, Lulu, Lissandra, Gnar, Ryze or Quinn toplane but I am not fan of low risk champions being so strong.

Problem is , buffing maokai so we have another damage loaded tank doesnt solve the problem. Excess damage needs to be trimmed and he would be in better shape.

Riot doesn't like when champions that lack LC$ BIG PLAY$ mechanics occupy the spotlight for too long. It was unacceptable that Sejuani was for a while more popular than Lee Sin, same with Maokai being more popular than some LC$ BIG PLAY$ top laners.