I feel Fiora needs a nerf due to the simple fact of conqueror adds to an ez top lane for her, especially when you're playing a melee champ like Darius/Garen, Ornnm Riven, the list goes on, Fiora's passive true dmg with Conqueror makes her broken early game, that once she has black cleaver, you can kiss you're thornmail *** good bye, due to the shred factor.
This is my thought and experiance, would like to see if others agree, or disagree, and why?
Galaxyburstz5 votesAlso, your losing lane to Fiora as Riven then ...
Also, her problem is more around %max Hp
Also, there are way more problematic top laners rn
They make Fiora look like the weakest part of the meta
Ragnaveil3 votesFiora 100% counters Aatrox, so hes hardly problematic.
Galaxyburstz1 votesOh lol, I see that you have misinterpreted that part, basically what I mean by saying that there are more problematic top laners to be adjusted is that they require some form of balancing in their aspect of gameplay ( they don't actually make Fiora feel weak, they have more issues to be fixed which make Fiora look like the most balanced champion on the roster )
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Ragnaveil1 votesNot really, Aatrox is hardly more problematic than those you have listed (Darius is a dead pick tbh unless you manage to draft him into a 0 stun no slow team). Riven and Jax are the most problematic champs in toplane period.
Galaxyburstz1 votes1 Month Later [ Where Are They Now? ] Meta Recap Episode 3 - Fiora Needs a Nerf!
Aatrox is hardly more problematic than those you have listed
Darius is a dead pick tbh
Ah, how times have changed my friend... how times have changed
Ragnaveil1 votesAatrox's winrate is inflated to due his R interaction with healers.
bluefire mark 22 votesLOL darius, kled, teemo, panth, is problematic, funny joke. Legit never see any of them because they're garbage right now.
Ragnaveil1 votesTeemo isn't trash, its just you cant pick him unless the enemy drafts something he can abuse 24/7. Sadly for him Jax and Riven light him up like a firework.
Lord Darth Vader2 votesas a garen main, i make teemo's look like a siege minion at 12 mins in, and make him look like a mage minion by 25 mins in, i've been playing since the start of season 2, and every teemo i have faced has been garbage, why you might ask, because i've practiced to learn how to counter those who are a counter to me, teemo and jax being 2 of the many, and teemo is the easier of the 2 i have listed on this reply, jax is another story, i counter him as garen early, but into late, he can counter me, so im still practicing on that. but my post is not about teemo or jax, it's about fiora's passive (true dmg) and running conq (more true dmg at 5 stacks) making garen useless when she drops her ult and spammed lung every 2 seconds stacking that true dmg and healing with her ult and conq.
Ragnaveil1 votesI mean, if Vayne is such an issue with her true damage thats build in, its a clear fucking sign such damage shouldnt exist unless it was a simple flat amount with no scaling whatsoever (Also wish her parry didnt like, stun you for 2 seconds for using cc. Shits kinda annoying when cc is the only thing in your kit that can save you from her bullshit onslaught. She can eat it, but fuck it changing to a stun.)
Lord Darth Vader1 voteswith Vayne it's understandable, and i respect vayne as i do play her as well as go vs her, but you dont see vayne's with conq and see them stacked at 5 like melee champs (refresh rate) for all of 5 seconds or longer as described in the tool tip for conq.
Ragnaveil1 votesConqs's really not that much of an issue though. Fiora usually goes Grasp due to having the true damage in her kit already. The only reason she'd go Conq is for the AD, that's about it.
Lord Darth Vader1 votesyeah the bonus ad added into true dmg allowing more true dmg output and getting the heal feedback from the conq, her ult would just increase it, making her a killing machine against tanks such as garen, you may ask why im so strung up on garen? it's because im a garen main, and he is my go to during blind picks or as first pick before the enemy top pick in draft/ranked, and the last time i vs'ed a few fiora's they ran conq, and made me look like a teemo, just a firework every 30 seconds followed with a grey screen for 10 seconds to 60 seconds depending on deaths, and length of game.
Lord Darth Vader2 votesi never said i was riven, i said i was garen vs fiora, the matter of the fact is conq on fiora is 2X more true dmg then fiora's passive alone (true dmg passive) hence making garen useless. please read my post again, and understand the facts.
Galaxyburstz1 votesA little bit late my man, I don't even play this game anymore and this is the first time I've logged into my account on the forums in nearly a month. Coincidentally, you just responded to this month old post several minutes ago, what perfect timing
Also I reread your post, I never said that you were playing Riven, you said top lane is an ez win if you pick Fiora into Riven,
You shouldn't lose lane to Fiora as Riven, especially with the help of the jungler,
Actually since Riven was nerfed in Patch 9.10 maybe Fiora defeats her now, who cares anyway I don't play this game anymore
Lord Darth Vader1 votesthe matter of the fact is that fiora's passive is already true dmg, let her take conq, thats bonus true dmg from adding ad, let her pop off with an ult, thats healing and dashing every attack and and every 2 seconds, from conq and her ult, since conq allows healing percentage from dmg dealt and gives true dmg at 5 stacks from bonus ad, it turns her into a killing machine for 6 seconds, allowing your hp bar go from full to zero in a blink of an eye, if not a blink then a few blinks, then you're left to watch the grey screen for as long as your death timer shows.
Galaxyburstz1 votesBtw I hate playing against Fiora just as much as you do so I found the best solution
Uninstalled
LordGeovanni1 votesIll give you darius teemo urgot and vayne. you also suspiciously left out riven
Galaxyburstz1 votesI mained Riven for 5 years, the last champion I played was Riven, my favorite champion was and always will be Riven the Exile
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SuperTopLFBottom1 votesAlso, your losing lane to Fiora as Riven then ...
Also, her problem is more around %max Hp
Also, there are way more problematic top laners rn
They make Fiora look like the weakest part of the meta
Kled is a dead pick are u like. Hello?
And fiora just destroys kled btw.
Aatrox is heavily overrated so is darius.
Also your list misses irelia and renekton if we are talking about stupidity and also riven.
Gentleman Yasuo2 votesMost fioras dont run conq and instead run grasp. Also conq is really bad early. Also fiora doesnt build black cleaver. and every champ you listed beats her except garen.
Lord Darth Vader2 votesi dont think you understand my post correctly, as stated conq on fiora can handle garen like garen handles teemo's he us useless vs her because her passive gives true dmg, and at 5 stacks of conq, thats more true dmg, there for garen is useless, please read my post again, and understand that conq with fiora's passive is 2X more powerful then without conq. thank you.
LordGeovanni1 votesFiora doesnt run conq she runs grasp is your only true statement there. Conq isnt bad early it just gets better while the enemy stacks more armor.