Tryndamere ult =way OP and BS!

Stampredonyou·Jun 16, 2015·2 votes·5,160 views

Why is tryndamere so bs with his ult? he already has an awesome passive, free heals, and escape, a slow, and massive damage. just feels so shit when you ulti stun as cass and burst him to nothing while hes stunned only for him to pres r and then face roll for the 100 to 0 kill after. Ulting while stunned. not cleansed, not even removes diables just unkillable. you cant chain cc him and get the kill, you can waste SOOO mach time trying to kill him, AND YOU HAVE TO. or he just split pushes ruins towers and comes from nowhere to kill you. please nerfs his bs ult riot

Gives e and soo many other a massive headache, makes the game no fun for anybody vsing him when he has such an OP mechanic. If i cant zhonyas while stunned (as ANYBODY), or cast ANYTHING as anybody else, why should he be able to, on top of his massive damage output?

17 Comments

Mat7itanJun 16, 20155 votes

I don't think he should be able to ult while affected by hard CC.

JamareeJun 16, 20153 votes

Because his damage isn't that massive especially when you itemize against him, he wins or loses depending on how lucky he gets and without fury, if he isn't fed, he isn't a threat. Also because item 3075

StampredonyouJun 16, 20151 votes

thats kinda meh though as a solution. infact thornmail is the worst thing to say. i play AP champs. name me one AP champ that can AFFORD to build that item. AP items are more expensive than AD (in general, MR as a stat is more expensive too) and it kind of ruins the whole idea of outplaying somebody if you only chance of beating them is to wreck you whole build just to deal with one person. literally any other champion you would build thornmail to deal with (jax, fiora, vayne, aatrox, yi or any other adc) you can stun and kill,you can ww/malzahar ult those champions and they die. they are powerless. they are actually stunned or suppressed. you can literally just OUTPLAY them. but not so with tryndamere.

a non fed tryndamere just goes farm for 10 minutes, gets a 2 items and splits like nobodies business. then when you surround him he ults, kills someone and spins away. even if you 5 man gank him he can ult, not die, and spin through a wall. i could start the whole "fury isnt a cost resource, its benefit only" path but nevermind.

edit* also, relying on your top laner to be able to crush tryndamere in lane phase or your whole team cant do squat without serious dedication over atleast 6 seconds, kind of shows you there is a problem.

its literally the "This move is usable even when under the effects of hard crowd control." part that ruins the game when facing him. alistar clears cc. fine. but i can still kill him. the rest of everything about his kit, no worries, i can deal with that. having to ruins an entire build to deal with one champion, means that champion is unbalanced.

JamareeJun 16, 20152 votes

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thats kinda meh though as a solution. infact thornmail is the worst thing to say. i play AP champs. name me one AP champ that can AFFORD to build that item. AP items are more expensive than AD (in general, MR as a stat is more expensive too) and it kind of ruins the whole idea of outplaying somebody if you only chance of beating them is to wreck you whole build just to deal with one person. literally any other champion you would build thornmail to deal with (jax, fiora, vayne, aatrox, yi or any other adc) you can stun and kill,you can ww/malzahar ult those champions and they die. they are powerless. they are actually stunned or suppressed. you can literally just OUTPLAY them. but not so with tryndamere.

Then in your case, you just get Zhonya. For god's sakes, you main Heim, you literally just put down turrets and chunk his face down and if he has the balls to come into three turrets, you just stun and walk away.

a non fed tryndamere just goes farm for 10 minutes, gets a 2 items and splits like nobodies business. then when you surround him he ults, kills someone and spins away. even if you 5 man gank him he can ult, not die, and spin through a wall. i could start the whole "fury isnt a cost resource, its benefit only" path but nevermind.

No, no he doesn't, a non fed Try can split push, but then you see the person they lost lane to, and are forced to back up, and stop acting like half the cast doesn't have flashes to chase after him anyway.

its literally the "This move is usable even when under the effects of hard crowd control." part that ruins the game when facing him. alistar clears cc. fine. but i can still kill him.

Yeah, and you wanna know why he has it, because without it, especially late game, he would be trash. Seriously, without that ultimate, he would spin into a teamfight then die, and even then, that is why you see so many Try's split push, because even with his ultimate, he gets stunned, AAed and forced to ulti then has five seconds before dead because he gets 100 to 0 too fast.

the rest of everything about his kit, no worries, i can deal with that. having to ruins an entire build to deal with one champion, means that champion is unbalanced.

Except you don't, you just aren't that good at the game and are looking for excuses to why you aren't improving instead of blaming yourself.

EndlessSorcererJun 16, 20151 votes

{quoted} thats kinda meh though as a solution. infact thornmail is the worst thing to say. i play AP champs. name me one AP champ that can AFFORD to build that item.

Mordekaiser Galio Swain Chogath Amumu

A few of them are more tank-ish and can't rush Thornmail immediately, but they are all AP champions.

Zhonya's Hourglass is another alternative since it lets you waste some of his ultimate's duration and Seeker's Armguard provides a lot of armor early game.

Chevalier FalconFeb 6, 20191 votes

Can confirm that this isn't always true, literally just came out of a game where Trynadmere was AFK throughout most of it, came back during the middle of the game was just able to get kills WAY too easily because of his ult letting him win trades against our teams jungler.

IcyPepperJun 16, 20153 votes

he already has an awesome passive, free heals,

Free heals? Where is this supposed free heals on his kit? Oh, you mean his Q active? I guess autoattacks are free damage, or Annie's Q is free damage, or Kayle gets "free" range in her kit, or that Taric has a free stun?

I know Tryndamere is somewhat resourceless, as in he doesn't have anything other than cooldowns to gate his cooldowns, but be glad his ultimate has a 90 second cooldown at max rank.

kJsJun 16, 20152 votes

You ignite him. Tryndameres typically don't build tanky Because they lose out a lot on potential damage.

You save your summoner 14 for his ult. his health are weaker and ignite usually lasts longer than his ult, which would kill him.

StampredonyouJun 16, 20151 votes

210 = 2.3 x 90. you just died 3 times. and his ult is 5 seconds. ignite is 5 seconds. noot everybody runs ignite, and leaving summoner 4 , summoner 12 or summoner 7 (adc/support) for it, just to kill him makes it seem OP.

EndlessSorcererJun 16, 20151 votes

If you think using all of your damage at the beginning of his ultimate's duration is how you kill Tryndamere, that seems to be your problem.

You ignite Tryndamere right before the end of his ultimate to reduce his healing and so it applies most of it's damage.

StampredonyouJun 16, 20152 votes

hell, even name me one hard counter. who is viable in lane

EndlessSorcererJun 16, 20151 votes

Darius

Well, when they fix the bug on his W and make it slow attack speed again.

Q pokes Tryndamere when he tries to CS or build Fury. W slows movement speed and attack speed. E can pull Tryndamere back if he tries to E away when timed appropriately. R can force Tryndamere's ultimate early in a fight. Passive can wear Tryndamere down and potentially finish him off after his ultimate runs out.

You just have to build a bit tanky early (Ninja Tabi, Doran's Blade (x2), Sunfire Cape) to avoid getting blown up and play around Tryndamere's AD reduction.

ChargeItDownMidJun 16, 20151 votes

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StampredonyouJun 16, 20152 votes

how is 5 seconds of unkillable while stunned or suppressed underpowered? i mean hell, i wouldnt care if they buffed something to balance it out again, but its literally the most infuriating thing possible, landing a short range stun, blowing all cds and killing him, only for him to r and kill you then walk away laughing. if it was a GA comeback, i wouldnt care. if it was a zhonyas, i wouldnt care. but its a free 5 second no drawback zhonyas. that you can use while ccd. so im lost as to the underpowered part?