Aurelion Needs A Revert

Subdued Rhombus··18 votes·5,809 views

Riot, you stole my main away from me, and 90% of A Sol mains feel the same way. The champ I have been playing solely since I decided to come back to league in season 7 for my friends is now no fun to play. I hardly even want to play the game anymore, because he was the only champ I found unique and interesting to get good with. I've settled with Kai'sa just because I don't want to abandon my friends, who I don't get to talk to unless I'm playing league, but I'm on my last leg with this game. No one who enjoys him has any complaints (except robbing us of 52 hp) up until you decided to butcher the champ.

If you think he needs some buffs to make him appealing, then buff the champ, but don't rework a champ that some people have spent thousands of games on to try to make him more appealing to people who don't play him. It's not like he's seen so much in pro play that makes him a powerhouse who needs to be stopped. Why can't someone who's put in the time in on the champion be rewarded by having a high win rate?

His kit has clear advantages and weaknesses. There is a ton of counterplay to his kit. Assassins have a hayday on him, but A Sol mains aren't complaining. Have you guys gotten so much mail that asks for an easier A Sol to warrant these changes? I doubt it, but feel free to prove me wrong. I just want my champ back.

If you have any doubts as to how the community feels about the changes, I'll give you some links to the A Sol Mains subreddit, which you guys pay no attention to, or you would've realized you shouldn't roll out these changes. Even a quick search through the boards would make you ralize people don't like this: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/search?query=aurelion+sol&application_id=PEr1qIcT&created_from=now-30d&content_type=discussion

Posts against the changes: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/d1kze0/this_isnt_neither_a_criticism_nor_toxic_hate_post/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/d1lpm3/lets_take_a_walk/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/d0wtrk/question/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/czo0nd/a_quick_recap/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cxyzrx/dont_understand_the_thinking_behind_speeding_up/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cxjyd3/high_elo_asol_rework_opinion_ryno/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cx83wr/my_thoughts_on_the_changes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwrbd9/its_here/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwvftt/does_this_kit_feel_a_little_too_clunky_to_anyone/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwvrxy/ok_the_mini_rework_feel_like_shit_i_like_the_old/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwuzz9/goodbye_ole_sol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwgqlo/taliyah_mains_when_asol_has_a_core_mechanic/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwoura/how_i_feel_about_new_sol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwnogy/goodnight_sweet_prince/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwr23f/i_loved_the_new_aptalon/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwp5ay/my_thing_with_the_new_rework_is/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwjmea/damn_invisible_kassadin/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwj5my/new_asol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwm5as/good_bye_buddy/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwqk1y/is_asol_ruined/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwmqle/rework_feels_not_just_dumbed_down_but_like_a/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwvmrc/revert_petition/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwgpcx/i_played_new_asol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwil1i/we_should_just_stop_playing_asol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwfegg/goodbye_old_asol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwe9q8/bois_it_is_with_great_sadness_that_i_say/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwhr1l/why_rework_him/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cw9mq9/rip_aurelion/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwm0cu/aurelion_is_worse_but_dont_hate_on_riot/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cw98j6/f/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cw3dra/rework_why_not_riven_why_not_azir/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwbpeb/should_we_just_main_taliyah_now_that_the_dragon/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cvh9rc/big_oofing_joke/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cvff2h/the_rework_megathread_was_a_way_to_suppress/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cuescn/riot_lying_2019_colorized/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cujslq/exposure/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cu5va1/the_changes_for_aurelion/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/ctqypu/i_keep_seeing_rito_talk_on_twitter_about/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/ct4juc/i_hope_the_a_sol_changes_are_similar_to_the_teemo/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cq4nz7/how_the_rework_to_aurelion_sol_is_less_of_a/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cnrynw/i_thought_im_going_to_be_happy_with_the_reworkbut/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cldl5p/me_logging_on_the_pbe/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cl4hih/rip_aurelion_sol_66_915/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/ckwho2/his_majesty_is_gone/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cku945/really_hope_asol_changes_wont_go_through_and_you/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cksaib/what_do_you_guys_think_of_this_mini_rework_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/ckul7r/rework_asol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cklpaf/what_the_hell_is_riot_thinking_with_the/

Posts for the changes: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/czbq5h/i_just_love_the_new_aurelion/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwopcd/this_is_insane_hear_me_out/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cx1zva/new_sol_is_great_just_a_bit_more_difficult_but/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwrpth/the_rework_opened_up_so_many_viable_builds/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwrp0r/so_new_asol_is_out_and_i_am_genuinly_having_fun/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwnxfy/rejoice_brothers_and_sissters_the_new_sol_feels/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwsa4t/new_sol_feels_really_strong/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwkcic/i_like_new_asol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwk78c/there_are_some_really_good_features_in_the_new/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/clgyuq/current_asol_are_we_too_selfish_what_about_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/ckrc7g/another_post_about_thoughts_on_the_rework_after/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/ckp7li/ive_been_waiting_for_this_aurelian_sol_reworkits/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/ckh4pu/my_toughts_after_testing_new_asol_in_practice_tool/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/ckj3lc/i_like_the_sol_changes/

Posts indifferent about the changes: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/d0naha/i_love_aurelion/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwjgpd/please_dont_let_this_amazing_sub_become_aatrox/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cw7fzr/w_toggle_aurelion_sol_funeral_thread/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwmblj/the_new_sol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/cwg91r/i_will_miss_you_little_sol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Aurelion_Sol_mains/comments/ckqa9c/how_i_feel_about_new_sol/

As you can tell here, there is a major discrepancy between what riot thinks is good for this champ and what people playing him think is good for the champ. Riot, please accept that you made a mistake and revert the changes made to Aurelion Sol.

8 Comments

Tahminatrix 7 votes

So far after skimming the list, Most of the posts that are against the aurelion changes don`t go lower than 83% on upvotes, keep in mind that this is a much longer list of reddit posts, it should be much more likely for some of them to be unpopular....

The posts that are in support of the aurelion changes tell a much different story with the highest ive seen being 84% and most of them swinging between the 70s and 60s.

And to those of you who think riot doesn't look at reddit, Riot Axes has been very involved within the garen and pantheon reddit and communicating with the mains of those champions when deciding what to do with their reworks...

Meanwhile many other reddits for the mains of unpopular champions have been ignored, TahmKench and AurelionSol and Galio are so far what ive specifically witnessed.

Subdued Rhombus1 votes

I truly feel like riot is alienating people who play A Sol just so they can sell some skins. It's disheartening and it makes me want to give up on this game. I wish that meant anything to anyone, but I know that I'm just one of millions of players playing and my voice means nothing to Riot, but I hoped I could demonstrate that I'm not the only one who feels this way about A Sol. It's sad because you can look at the recent Riot Q & A's and you'll notice that they didn't push through a teemo rework because Teemo mains were complaining about it, but that doesn't seem to apply here. Interesting....

Kazekiba3 votes

Whats even wrong with it? Not having your W on permanently? Oh no the ... wait its basically constantly up lategame anyway because lmao 1.6 second cd The E Change? its a one-point wonder now so that you never have to think about maxing W or E first. Simplifying WQE to be the objectively superior build order 100% of the time opens up Aurelion to be playable to more than 25 people. "90% of ASol mains feel --"

Great. 23 players are upset meanwhile thousands can finally play a champ that's long been underplayed on a thematic and fantasy that by all rights SHOULD be one of LoL's most popular champs -- I mean, who doesnt wanna play a badass space dragon? Face the music; not even the pros are playing ASol anymore and if there's anybody who should be able to work with his kit, to spend the time practicing ASol, it's the best of the best of the pro players. If theyre not utilizing him, then his kit has major issues and if players want skins for Aurelion, then Riot needs to do something to expand his playerbase. These have been very positive changes overall, imo, and I really enjoyed playing the new AS! Especially with the chnage that his orbs dont dissipate when he's stunned. Heimer's turrets don't shut off just because you CCd him so why should Aurelion's stars

Subdued Rhombus3 votes

Whats even wrong with it? Not having your W on permanently?

Yes, that is part of what's wrong with it. It's super clunky for teamfights when you have between 1-5 seconds of cooldown before you can do anything in a fight. I'd rather leave my W on in a teamfight and focus on positioning to be hitting the most targets constantly, because that's what A Sol is, how he was always played, and how he should be played. Now you're just forced to dip in and out of fights and it doesn't really make sense.

The E Change?

Yes, that's another part. The old E gave passive movement speed, which allowed Sol to catch up to his opponents or outrun them. I understand it's been moved to his W, but having MS after your stars are retracted makes zero sense when you're playing him. It's useless to have the MS come after your dps.

Simplifying WQE to be the objectively superior build order 100% of the time

If a person that wanted to play Sol read anything about him, they would know that WQE is the only way to max his abilities. It isn't simplified, it's dumbed-down.

opens up Aurelion to be playable to more than 25 people. "90% of ASol mains feel --"

Great. 23 players are upset meanwhile thousands can finally play a champ that's long been underplayed

There are 6.6k subscribed to the ASol Mains subreddit. Go check his playrate this patch. It hasn't even gone up 1%. I'm not saying you're wrong, but, you're wrong.

Face the music; not even the pros are playing ASol anymore and if there's anybody who should be able to work with his kit, to spend the time practicing ASol, it's the best of the best of the pro players. If they're not utilizing him, then his kit has major issues

Just because a champion is not meta and unseen in pro play doesn't make him unplayable or means that his kit has major issues. His winrate used to be over 50%, because mains knew how to play him, and played him well. That should be proof enough for you.

I mean, who doesnt wanna play a badass space dragon?

Someone who is unwilling to learn how to play him properly

if players want skins for Aurelion, then Riot needs to do something to expand his playerbase.

I'd rather have my OTP be playable than get a new skin for him. There are 153 champions in League. They could've reworked so many other champs to increase their player base, but they choose the one champ that nearly every single one of the people who played him hate the new version of. Riot didn't even bother talking to the mains of the champion before gutting him. It hurts, man.

These have been very positive changes overall, imo, and I really enjoyed playing the new AS!

Did you play the old Sol enough to have an opinion on which is more fun to play? Instead of being a battlemage, he's just a bad version of a burst mage now.

Especially with the chnage that his orbs dont dissipate when he's stunned.

I would've taken this just as a buff to the old Sol over the new Sol one million times over. It's a great change, but the messed up every other part of his kit in the process.

Moody P4 votes

This sounds like a lot of cope and dancing around the fact that his play rate didn't move up at all for a change that supposedly "opens him up to thousands" as if the average player couldn't play a champion if they aren't smashing a button constantly

Subdued Rhombus3 votes

I really don't understand why I'm being downvoted for showing that people disapprove of this rework...

Sewer Side1 votes

He really doesn’t and champion main subreddits are fucking cesspits to begin with.

See r/AatroxMains and r/RengarMains.

Or the fucking Wukong squad brigades.

Chillingfrost1 votes

I saw the changes. Moved the movementspeed from e to w and gave it a cooldown so he couldn't push like crazy early game. Still made it go down to a 2sec cooldown so it basically became the same permanent w with additionally movementspeed if you remmembered to deactivate and activate. Like all in all it seems like this mini rework was to reduce lane push power?

I am not sure though since I haven't played him after rework and wasn't dedicated to him either. Could you tell me what is the major differences in his kit from pre to post rework? :-)

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