How come everybody forgot about Ahri right now?

boodybad·Jul 30, 2015·7 votes·1,823 views

The fact that she has a 55% winrate with a decent 20% pickrate.

The fact that she gets a free fucking homeguard buff on her Q for no fucking reason.

The fact that she gets to kill anyone without even needing her skillshots?

The fact that her mana costs become negligible once she has and blue buff.

The fact that she lost her pre-6 weakness lack of mobility with this stupid Q buff

The fact that this champ has three fucking dashes on her ultimate on a relatively low cooldown.

The fact that this fucking bitch has innate sustain on her passive, because she totally needed to stay in lane longer that most mages.

How come everybody forgot about this fucking piece of shit?

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Posui GartJul 30, 20154 votes

The fact that she has a 55% winrate with a decent 20% pickrate.

Now check high-elo stats

The fact that she gets to kill anyone without even needing her skillshots?

Ehm, no? Her W is weak and has 0 range, her R is weak damage-wise, and her Q and E are skillshots

The fact that her mana costs become negligible once she has and blue buff.

Same with any other AP mid And now for some disadvantages: Her range is almost 0, she has to dive in a fight to deal damage She has only 1 CC and it is hard to hit She is squishy and her sustain does nothing after laning

DracidJul 30, 20151 votes

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Now check high-elo stats

Ehm, no? Her W is weak and has 0 range, her R is weak damage-wise, and her Q and E are skillshots

Same with any other AP mid And now for some disadvantages: Her range is almost 0, she has to dive in a fight to deal damage She has only 1 CC and it is hard to hit She is squishy and her sustain does nothing after laning

im not saying ahri is OP but a few of your things are not really good points.

She has a 54% winrate above in plat and above. Also having such a high pick rate combined with a high win rate is usually a good basis for how strong a champion is. If she is picked so often, it means a lot of people can pick her up and win with her regardless if they play her a lot. I doubt all those people main her.

Her W is most certainly not weak and her R isn't used for damage later on in the game to begin with. Its for repositioning.

Range is almost 0? What? She nowhere near has to dive in teamfights if done right.

Her sustain is still great after laning

Posui GartJul 30, 20154 votes

Well she actually HAS to dive in teamfights. Look at Azir, Xerath, Ziggs, Varus. These midlaners have decent range on their spells and can do damage to enemy mid/ADC while staying behind their frontlane. Ahri has to ult through enemy frontlane to get to them. Her greatest advantage is her mobility, and damaage-wise she loses to most other midlaners. There is a reason why she is rare pick in pro-level games. About her popularity and winrate-well, she is easy to snowball, her killing potential is actually good on lane after 6(I main mid myself and I often died to Ahri because of underestimating her damage combo with ult before i learned to recall if i have low hp and she got ult) and she can gank really good, while it is hard to gank her. But most times when I play against Ahri she cant even come close to fight without eating some damage

Only Play DariusJul 30, 20154 votes

Because she isn't as cheesy or gimmicky as other midlaners. When you lose to Ahri you feel genuinely outplayed. She is well-designed and pretty balanced.

boodybadJul 30, 20151 votes

Uuuuugh...

I would agree if it wasn't from that dumb movement speed on her Q.

I really feel they shouldn't have buffed her during DFG's removal. She was still good without DFG, as she still deals lots of damage and has lots of mobility to position herself. But seriously, giving her even more movement speed PRE LEVEL 6 is a terrible idea.

That's basically removing her only weakness.

Only Play DariusJul 30, 20151 votes

They did buff her unnecessarily after DFG removal, in which she became disgustingly overpowered. Next patch they rebalanced her by toning her numbers down and removing the damage amp on her charm, in exchange they gave her the movespeed buff on her Q to make her more of a kite mage instead of the 100-0 assassin that she was with DFG.

boodybadJul 31, 20151 votes

Fun fact, they gave her unnecessarily buffs after DFG removal. And guess what?

They gave her an item that's even better than DFG on her!

yay 10/10 riot.

DrNovaJul 31, 20152 votes

Of all the things to complain about, bitching about a one second burst of speed from her Q is one of the worst, and has no reasonable backing to it. She is far from the only one with a speed boost, and by far one of the lease complainable ones.

It doesnt make her op, and its not even really that significant. People will complain about anything these days.

boodybadJul 31, 20151 votes

Of course, you're an Ahri main, so you would feel biased towards the champion.

But please, don't come talking about balance when you can't even get out of Bronze IV with Ahri and Vladimir.

Radnar the boldJul 30, 20153 votes

I love these types of post. They name a champ, then say why they believe they think they are OP by listing on Fox news worth facts and then demand nerfs.

JustMyBassCannonJul 30, 20151 votes

My feelings on these posts

Radnar the boldJul 30, 20151 votes

My feelings on these posts

Its not liek the old lyte smite or even when two people go at it......its just bad info and alot of qq. Tommorrow itll be a new champ with the same bad info and bad stuff.

1000angrybeesJul 30, 20153 votes

Not a homeguard buff. Not even close, but nice try.
Maybe if you're on low health? Duh. Not on more than half, pal.
You added blue buff into this. That's cute.
Really overplaying this Q thing.
You know what, I won't even totally disagree on the this. The ult is fine, but I can see why the CD would be aggravating.
you know you have to use at least 3 abilities to get the passive, right? that's a bunch of mana.

boodybadJul 30, 20151 votes

It was just a bit of exaggeration, but it still grants 215 fucking movement speed upon cast, even though it's decaying over the Q duration. It's still big and really oppressive.

I remember that game against an Ahri. She had 2 items and half and I had full HP. She fucking missed both her Q and E, but her W dealt fucking 1400 damage without Luden's and R dealt 500 damage. I was Ezreal but still, two spells fuckign chunked me to death and I couldn't fucking escape, because three dashes and targeted spells.

Yes, Ahri is a mid laner, thus she should get blue buff, so I'm taking this into account.

Don't even try to fucking tell me that you think that Q buff didn't remove her fucking pre-6 lack of mobility, because if you do, you are literally dumb as fuck.

I wouldn't care about the ult if it had a noticeable cooldown. Early, I can pretty much understand, 110 seconds, even though she tends to rush Morello, granting 20% CDR, but that works for every mid laner. However, the late game cooldown is so fucking absent it's incredible. With 40% CDR, I saw an Ahri dashing 6 fucking times in the same teamfight.

I'll agree with you on that one, but even though, she builds mana regen and blue buff is also present to help her with mana sustain.

LadyRenlyJul 30, 20152 votes

Is Ahri the new Vayne?

Sakura MirageJul 30, 20152 votes

Ya can make every champion sound op by just naming things they have in their kit Free mana regen Ridiculous health sustain on low cool downs Has 2 cc Damage is off the charts in team fights Swain but does that make him op by just naming all he's strengths like you did with ahri.

Ser GarlandJul 30, 20152 votes

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Ya can make every champion sound op by just naming things they have in their kit Free mana regen Ridiculous health sustain on low cool downs Has 2 cc Damage is off the charts in team fights but does that make him op by just naming all he's strengths like you did with ahri.

Yeah, what's Ahri's weakness? She's squishy? Speed makes up for it 9/10

DrNovaJul 30, 20152 votes

Only is you are mentally too slow to keep up. Outside of her R, she isnt that fast, a quick little boost after using Q does nothing really.

boodybadJul 30, 20151 votes

"Quick little boost"

It's actually 215 movement speed decaying over the duration. With such low cooldown, it's actually really good and providing really high mobility, which is bullshit on Ahri.

DrNovaJul 31, 20151 votes

It all decays in like a second. Its a quick boost and then its gone, not like it gives massove mobility boost. Its not going to get away from people chasing you all by itself (most people)

And why is is bullshit on ahri? Thats supposed to be her thing, kiting/mobility. Its not op, she isnt op. There is literally no reason for this thread.

boodybadJul 31, 20151 votes

I don't know why I'm trying to argue against a Bronze IV Vlad and Ahri main, but I'll force myself and answer you anyway.

If you think her quick movement speed is nothing, then you're literally stupid as fuck. "That's her thing, kiting and mobility hurr", yeah, she already did that, as she had three fucking dashes on her R and her charm to slow her target, plus, she's even more fucking efficient against tanks, since her Q deals a good chunk of true damage on a relatively low cooldown.

That aside, now, they gave her a HUGE massive movement speed burst on her Q. Sure it helps her kiting, but that's not the only issue with it.

By doing so, they gave her even more sticking potential to her target, as she can catch up to you even more easily since her Q is on a really low cooldown and she tends to build CDR. Plus, she doesn't even need her ultimate anymore to escape. Just a few Qs and Es and bye bye, I'm out. They basically removed her only late game weakness, which was very vulnerable when ultimate is on cooldown. That even removed her weakness during the leaning phase which was "no mobility pre-6, so vulnerable to ganks". Now, she can just Q and taunt the enemy jungler from her turret until he's gone.

Her buffs were heavily broken and unnecessary as fuck. Why do you think she had a fucking 56-58% winrate while having such high pick rate when those buffs went live?

To compensate, they just increased her mana costs and REVERTED the W damage buffs she got from the loss of amplification damage from her E. But that still doesn't solve the problem, as she can just build Morello and get blue buff and she negates those mana problems.

TL;DR Ahri is still a fucking oppressive champion right now and she still is fucking ban worthy, since her win constency is very high for a 20% pickrate. That's why she's my priority ban with Janna and Jinx.

DrNovaJul 31, 20151 votes

lol desperate to shore up your argument so you start personally attacking me? Pathetic. If you'll notice no one really agree's with you. So go cry in a corner about it

kthxbai