Is it just me or does this seem a bit unfair?

TheJinxedOne··1 votes·635 views

playing as Heimerdinger and having 3 turrets, people are intimidated and have to put effort into killing your turrets but by the time they kill 1 you have another....

Zyra hi i used 3 seeds waiting patiently to put them all down then another spell, AND a snare to keep you in range, but go ahead kill them all like theyre nothing and theyll just die in a few seconds anyways if you dont....

which might not be a big problem, but the one thats in a good spot, has 0 mana issues especially by the time he has to back, and the other, good luck with it

15 Comments

TeemoJenkins3 votes

Life isn't fair. You're comparing apples to oranges with these two champs.

TheJinxedOne1 votes

that would be true if i was talking about zyra support, which im not

TheJinxedOne1 votes

even ori seems much better at mid to me

BIFF1 votes

So wait... you're mad that a support champ isn't as strong as a solo lane champ?

this thread sounds like a lot of QQ.

TheJinxedOne1 votes

morgana mid is a thing, lux mid is a thing, ori mid is a thing, just because they are support doesnt mean they arent a viable mid. i dont expect them to 100-0 someone because they arent mage/assassin they are mage/support, meaning utility mage, heimer also counts as a support and a mage, therefore zyra should also be able to mid just as effectively as her MAGE role in MID, im NOT talking about using her as a support

TheJinxedOne1 votes

morgana mid is a thing, lux mid is a thing, ori mid is a thing, just because they are support doesnt mean they arent a viable mid. i dont expect them to 100-0 someone because they arent mage/assassin they are mage/support, meaning utility mage, heimer also counts as a support and a mage, therefore zyra should also be able to mid just as effectively as her MAGE role

ACTUALLY ig you go in the store and sort by attribute SUPPORT, zyra doesnt even show up, it is her secondary role, NOT her primary role, guess who does show up? heimer (the one in question), syndra, karma, all viable mid

3TWarrior1 votes

zyra was originally designed as a mid champ and molded to support by the meta, just like blitzcrank, who was designed to solo top

Meep Man1 votes

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zyra was originally designed as a mid champ and molded to support by the meta, just like blitzcrank, who was designed to solo top

and Leona

FuryofThornsRedo1 votes

Soraka "Follow that star, so pretty! Are there any other stars like the one picture above I could collect or follow to find more?" Anywhere?

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Mob Psycho 1002 votes

Zyra has a lot more teamfight potential and doesnt have to rely on her plants to deal damage, where as a majority of Dongers power comes solely from his turrets.

TheJinxedOne1 votes

yeah im not knocking the team fights or the damage just... the health of the plants mainly, they already fade in seconds, i dont under stand why they should be so easy to kill, especially ulted plants. its even more annoying as a support, the plant will die as soon as it sprouts

Baunjo1 votes

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Zyra has a lot more teamfight potential and doesnt have to rely on her plants to deal damage, where as a majority of Dongers power comes solely from his turrets.

yeah just because they create units like that doesnt mean they need to be at the same level. Thats like saying malz needs 3 voidlings or some shit 0_o

Meep Man1 votes

If it takes you 22-18 seconds to kill a Heimerdinger turret, you have a serious problem at hand that probably means Heimerdinger is fed. Also, Zyra isn't really weak right now so we really shouldn't buff her.

TheJinxedOne1 votes

im not saying shes weak, her plants are just. too easy to kill

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