I like that the old ult is co.ming back, but i think u shoild be able to stop bouncing by pressing r again similar to wu ult which u can cacel. I think this should be implemented just so it can synergise better with his current q otherwise it just feels clunky to use those skills as they dont work together.
nGio4 votesHe needs the full revert. The Q is nice, but Zac had his highest win rate top lane as an AP sustain bruiser. We gave up too much damage and sustain for the Q and R. Revert everything so that he can be allowed to deal damage and be viable in the lane again.
JustMonika133 votesHe needs the full revert. The Q is nice, but Zac had his highest win rate top lane as an AP sustain bruiser. We gave up too much damage and sustain for the Q and R. Revert everything so that he can be allowed to deal damage and be viable in the lane again.
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Ahris1 votesIsnt his new Q stronger than old q? And now his R is going to be good too and W will have an ap ratio as well. So ap bruiser zac can come back.
TheSingularity2 votesThe issue is he has no decent poke through minions/ranged last hitting tool. In addition, he lost an obscene amount of W dmg because of his new Q CC.
mack91123 votesHe is not a laner
nGio2 votesHe is not a laner
Well maybe in bronze. Gold+ top lane was his highest wr. He spent the better part of 2 years with 50% jg wr and 51% top lane wr, which is better than the current 47-48% jg and unplayable in a lane.
"This champ goes here" and "this champ builds these items every game" is one of the reasons why this game went to shit. If something off meta ever reaches Riot's ears, it gets curb stomped out of the boring manipulated meta. Zac top was fun to play(for his mains) and refreshing to see.
mack91122 votesZac top was viable when his sustain was overbearing. In his previous state he had absolutely no dueling tools which meant he had no top lane potential.
The champion has some of the best ganks in the game and you can’t balance him around having that strength and being a laner he has too much power in his e with its engage potential to put power in the rest of his kit.
I have played a lot of him through my time with this game.
nGio2 votesThe champion has some of the best ganks in the game and you can’t balance him around having that strength and being a laner
But you can, and they did. 50% wr jungle and 50-51% top lane with under 2% pick rate for the BETTER PART OF TWO YEARS. His top lane was hit or miss, with matchups he did really well against and others that he got completely shit stomped regardless of player ability. 50-51% win rate with under 2% pick rate is the definition of balance.
I don't know where all this "overbearing" shit is coming from considering that he was played at 2% with 1/8th of that 2% being top lane. Bruisers are supposed to be overbearing in the lane, but Zac was far more forgiving to play against than the AD bruisers and fighters who run the fucking yard.
Zac top was viable when his sustain was overbearing.
The last buff to his sustain(his W) was in patch 4.11, which was 5 years ago, about 2 years before his peak in top lane.
mack91121 votesYes you are correct that was that meta with top lane being far slower and we are talking about right now with the current meta.
With the meta that top has formed into in the past two years top zac would not be viable in any way shape or form.
If you cannot duel you are not viable and in order to make zac viable top his numbers would have to be so good jungle zac would be over powered.
This is because his power budget is heavily into initiating and disruption.
As well zac top was insane when his blobs did not go in the direction of his lane opponent and the heal was absolutely insane a time you must not have been present.
Can you provide those winrate numbers because I remember them far differently.
I have played zac even before he did not get cooldown reduction for w on blob pickup and before champions dropped extra blobs.
9mm Valentine2 votesI'm just happy it's back. God I hated reworked Zac.
0 Hogapu1 votesWhat killed zac toplane, imo, are the flat w dmg nerf. it does literally nothing atm, and zac can't push as he used to. maybe make it so his w has doubled dmg on minions ? I miss zac top T_T
